10 day Strike Notice Announced

Share your thoughts, feelings, observations about what’s happening during the open-ended strike countdown.

MNA has announced the strike will begin on July 6th, 7:00am.ย  This will be another sad day for many!

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178 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Anonymous on June 25, 2010 at 1:08 pm

    The thought of this actually happening almost makes me physically sick. This worries me and my coworkers who are non-union and have given up wage increases and taken furloughs in the last year. I’m truly worried about our organization being able to financially handle an open-ended strike. I love my job, but I’m updating my resume and starting to keep an eye out for other options. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

    • Many people forget that the hospital is still a business. I worry for Children’s as a soon to be opening children’s hospital is in our backyard and we will have competition that is associated with a prestigous university. Wish we had a crystal ball and could look ahead to show everyone how much damage will be done with this strike. I wonder….does everyone think a hospital is exempt from closing? I think Tom can shed some light on this with his experiences during the 1984 strike.

    • Posted by itsjustsohardforthem on June 25, 2010 at 3:53 pm

      I can’t believe the nurses aren’t asking for more. They do so much for so little. They have to deal with all those hospital personnel that are so critical of them WHILE caring for patients. My heart goes out to the nurses and hope that they get everything they are asking for, plus compensation for the time off during the strike!

      • Posted by anotherview on June 25, 2010 at 4:30 pm

        While I agree that nurses work very hard, they are well compensated, with good benefits, and a lot of nice things in their contract that other employees don’t have – sick time bonus, longevity bonus, weekend bonus, special OT and differentials. If it were possible to pay teachers more – I am sure people would. If it were possible to pay nurses more and give them more in benefits, I am sure people would. There are a lot of other people in a hospital that make it all work. Our nurses don’t start IV’s, do EKG;’s, or draw blood – RN’s in other hospitals do that while taking care of more patients – and do it safely. Hospitals are filled with nursing assistants, lab techs, CV techs, rad techs, pharmacists, and more who all contribute to the care of the patient. Yes, nurses do work hard and don’t always get the recognition but that doesn’t mean that what is going on right now is the best way to handle things.

        • Posted by wildfox on June 25, 2010 at 6:34 pm

          Good point….and if nurses go on strike they are risking ancillary employees being layed off. Then nurses will need to do their work and and the work of everyone else who are jobless. How will this be safer patient care,to pull nurses away from patients bedsides to do non nursing duties?

    • Posted by wildfox on June 25, 2010 at 6:46 pm

      I over heard the most disturbing conversation at the hospital today. MNA members (one is a hospital MNA rep) planning a party before the strike to celebrate and practice what they will yell at “scabs”. This is sick.

      • Posted by lovenursing on June 26, 2010 at 1:57 pm

        this makes me so saaaadd, when i see the unprofessional behavior that is witnessed….not about the patients

    • Posted by microage97 on June 25, 2010 at 11:36 pm

      Wow, I really hope that there is a underground movement by the nurses @CHC to break away from MNA and the NNU. I do believe that this strike will not be good for the nurses, the staff who work with the nurses and CHC and their ability to stay afloat. I can also say there is a deep resentment towards the union and their demands on a yearly salary increase and steps were as the other hospital staff got only a meager increase and has no steps in base pay.

      I do support nurses in general, but if there is a strike, I will not feel the least bit of sympathy for any strikers that loss their jobs permanently as they left great jobs. Maybe what the hospital needs to do is to get some nurses that are happy to even have jobs in this 10% un-employment economy.

  2. Posted by Chewie on June 25, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    I’m a non-nurse who works at one of the 14 TCH. I can’t believe that the majority of the nurses can be so cold and cruel. They scream patient care and safety, yet they’re ready to walk out on their patients, they blew bugles disrupt patients at St Joes, and they talk about their peers as if they were a disease (replacement nurses).

    They say it’s not about money, yet they want want is equal to a 6.5% raise per year. When their support staff (HUCs, Finance, IT, HIS, etc.) gets nothing.

    They say it’s about patient ratios, when in all reality it’s about guaranteeing shifts (again money).

    When is the public and hopefully the media going to wake up and take a look at how wrong the MNA is?

    • Posted by rndmcrzyktty on June 25, 2010 at 8:05 pm

      It’s amazing to think that the nurses can be so blinde as to what it really going on at the hospitals. Do they now know? Do they not realize? If the strike goes through, if they get what they want, with the cuts and reductions that are coming from the government and payors… we’ll be losing hospitals in a year or two. They simply won’t be able to support the employees and will have to close. Then more nurses will be out of work, is that what they really want?

    • Posted by microage97 on June 25, 2010 at 11:38 pm

      probably never as this is now an entitlement driven mob…….

  3. Posted by Chewie on June 25, 2010 at 1:51 pm

    Is it possible for the Governor to block the strike?

    • Posted by drichmn on June 25, 2010 at 1:57 pm

      I don’t know if he can just step in on his own or if the TCH would have to request it. I suppose someone could contact his office and ask.

      • Posted by Angie on June 25, 2010 at 11:43 pm

        I know shortly after the 1 day strike, he was contacted and said he would not intervene. I don’t recall any more details. I’m not sure if his position has changed, I will check into this.

    • Hi Chewie….I emailed the Governor and the President before the last strike and asked them both to step in and stop the strike. I got an email back from both offices saying they received the email….but nothing further.

    • Posted by Big D on June 25, 2010 at 3:25 pm

      Here is the scoop. The governor could activate the RN’s who are members of the national guard. There are medical units with RN’s among them. He could send(order) them up to selected hospitals to help out. It wouldn’t be many but a good gesture and a big feather in his republican cap to say he stood up to the unions when 2012 comes around.

      • Posted by drichmn on June 25, 2010 at 4:07 pm

        that’s an interesting take on it. I never thought of that.

      • Posted by Angie on June 25, 2010 at 11:47 pm

        I’m not sure about this. My husband is a member of the national guard which was activated for the state nursing home strikes 2 years ago. I did ask him and he said since the hospitals are not owned by the state, national guard cannot be activated for private companies. Will check on this further though!

  4. Posted by Sorry on June 25, 2010 at 1:58 pm

    I am a nurse that has been away from the bedside for 10+ years, how I wish I could join you all back at the bedside to care for the patients that my union friends will be walking out on. I loved taking care of patients but injuries have prevented me from doing this, I am willing to risk all the pain to care for patients during this awful time.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 25, 2010 at 2:04 pm

      thanks for your commitment to the patients. You should also take care of your own needs. Send supportive and healing thoughts to all.

    • Posted by microage97 on June 25, 2010 at 11:39 pm

      That is just awesome! God Bless you!!!!!

  5. Posted by concerned on June 25, 2010 at 2:05 pm

    I am a non-union employee at one of the hospitals and am worried about the strike. I am 7 months pregnant and if I get laid off, no one is going to hire a woman who is 7 months pregnant. The other thing that worries me is how much time from my planned maternity leave I will have to sacrifice because of the nurses who are striking. I want more than anything to be with my soon-to-be newborn daughter as long as possible. This is hurting more than just the patients and the hospitals finances. I find their actions greedy and selfish.

    • Posted by concerned on June 25, 2010 at 2:07 pm

      And when I say I find “their” actions greedy and selfish, I mean the nurses who are striking, not the hospitals.

    • When I commented on the Star/tribune about other workers being affected I was accused of not seeing the big picture. I am sorry about how this is affecting you..just like the patients you have no say in this and are caught in the middle also. I wish you the best and hope all turns out well for you. It continues to break my heart that we are hurting so many.

      • Posted by wondering1984 on June 25, 2010 at 2:32 pm

        The big picture is the aftermath in 2-5 years post strike, and that is the picture the union is not seeing. What good will a 3% raise do you if your hospital closes the following year?

        • Posted by drichmn on June 25, 2010 at 2:34 pm

          this could be one of the unintended consequences. And where will MNA be when that happens? They certainly won’t be affected.

          • Posted by rndmcrzyktty on June 25, 2010 at 8:11 pm

            they might be affeccted a little bit, as in less nurses working, less nurses paying union dues, less money for them… but unlike the hospitals, the union isn’t looking to the future and what is best in the long run.

      • Posted by Anonymous on June 25, 2010 at 7:07 pm

        nostrikefornurses…you ARE seeing the bigger picture and that’s what they don’t want people to think about. This is going to affect everyone working for the various health care organizations involved as well as the patients.

    • Posted by microage97 on June 25, 2010 at 11:41 pm

      Yup well said. Who knew I could be laid off because someone wants a raise year after year while I get none?

  6. Posted by Patty on June 25, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    I am an RN who has received the news of the strike notice with a heavy, but not surprised, heart. In the subtext beneath all the MNA-speak, it seems as though they have wanted this strike all along. I voted “no” both times, but did observe the 24-hour strike. Now what? When I am away from the hospital I want to rise above my moral distress, resign my membership from the MNA, and help my leadership team care for our patients if there is to be a strike. But when I work on my high-risk unit and observe the strong comments and judgments from our many outspoken union-supporting staff members, I foresee a challenging and miserable work environment ahead for RNs who will cross picket lines. Last month I heard one union rep telling a young nurse that names of nurses who cross will be “put on a list” and distributed to other unions who are supportive of our strike, and that the effects will be far-reaching. True? Who knows? Threatening? Definitely. Just this past weekend another young nurse verbalized worry about being nice to a staff nurse who worked during the 24-hour strike because she feared what the union supporters would think of her. I am so grateful that this blog was created and that a coworker forwarded me the link.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 25, 2010 at 2:56 pm

      that is absolutely intimidation and grounds for a ULP against MNA. You should document the who, what, where, when of such things and also report them to your manager and HR rep. I would also encourage you to consider filing a ULP against them in the future. This is unacceptable. They should know they are as subject to ULP’s as they use against the hospitals.

      We will be here to offer whatever support, encouragement and information as we can.

    • This situation has shown everyone’s true colors. I have said “Children’s is not the place I once thought it to be” not because of the hospital or management….it is because of the nurses I work with and their attitudes. It is sad.

      • Posted by rndmcrzyktty on June 25, 2010 at 8:16 pm

        It is so very true that the atmosphere at the hosptials have changed. I’m a non-union employee who works casually with some of the nurse and they way they talk or treat me now, without even knowing my stance, it’s unbelievable. I’m worried about how everything is going to be in the end, the nurses, the hosptials, the patients… even if all the hosptials can afford to stay open once it’s all said and done.

    • Posted by Connie1960 on June 25, 2010 at 4:30 pm

      I’m so sorry for all that you and the other wonderful nurses who share a true passion for nursing have had to endure at the hands of the MNA. Bullies, thugs, reps…people can call them what they like. I’ve learned over the years that no one should EVER have the right to diminish your love for your patients and the passion you feel toward your chosen calling. Thank you for your heartfelt, sincere words. I’m sure they have helped ease the minds of many; knowing they are not alone in their feelings. Please know that the public supports you and would be proud to receive the care you provide. Sending good wishes your way.

      • Thank you! We all appreciate all the support because according to the votes we are the minority. For many of us it is a calling that we will continue to do.

      • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 26, 2010 at 12:53 am

        Thank you Connie–it means so much to hear this right now!!!

    • Posted by anotherview on June 25, 2010 at 4:37 pm

      There may be safety in numbers. If there are enough of you on your unit/shift, the impact will be less. Remember, the union does not hire you, the hospitals do. Your name on a list does not really mean anything except the high school bully being mean.

      • Posted by wondering1984 on June 25, 2010 at 4:49 pm

        Almost all hospitals have hostile work environment policies. Where does this type of behavior fit in to that? Theoretically a complaint could be filed in HR, however I know this would take tremendous courage to do.

        • I have not been intimidated personally…most are saving that for newer nurses who they think they can bully. I have informed the nurses who have been intimidated to please let anyone who tries to bully them to let them know it will not be tolerated and they will/can be reported. I would take it to my manager and then on to HR. JCAHO is very big into workplace intimidation also so it is taken very seriously.

        • Posted by wildfox on June 25, 2010 at 6:39 pm

          Report disrespectful behavior to your manager and human resources.

          • Posted by lorelei65 on June 25, 2010 at 11:15 pm

            That would be violated the Standards of Behavior and that is a disciplinary infraction. I wish those very outspoken, zealous ppl could see themselves the way they appear to me and to a lot of other ppl. I think they would be ashamed. Mob-mentality is a scary thing.

    • Posted by NoncontractRN on June 25, 2010 at 4:53 pm

      I completely understand where your coming from…they did post a couple names of nurses that crossed on the MNA facebook site after the June 10 strike. I find that disgusting and childish.

    • Posted by Leyla on June 25, 2010 at 5:54 pm

      Hi Patty. I understand your concerns. I resigned membership as soon as I got the MNA packet after I was hired at the hospital.
      It can be scary to cross. For me though, I’d rather face the cold shoulders, for doing what I believe is right, than stay home to avoid conflict. When I crossed June 10th both my manager and the president of the hospital expressed concern for the well-being of those who crossed, and wanted to know if we were harassed afterwards so that they could address it.
      Additionally, I contacted the National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation (http://nrtw.org/). They responded to my email within a few days, and I was given the phone number of one of their lawyers to speak with who helped me with a bunch of questions that I had prior to crossing. NRTW is a great resource if you want more information about your rights, as well as information regarding resigning membership from the union.
      Good luck!

      • Posted by drichmn on June 25, 2010 at 6:07 pm

        great information Leyla. I’m going to put it in one of the FAQ’s. I might just make an FAQ that addresses crossing the picket line and glean things from the others that apply so they aren’t so spread out.

      • Posted by ProfessionalRN on June 26, 2010 at 10:40 am

        Leyla
        thank yo so much for this great resource. I am so grateful for the rational voices and support I have found on this site! I appreciate how respectful the postings are. Hang in there everyone and Stand Tall!

    • Posted by listenup123 on June 25, 2010 at 6:05 pm

      Hi Patty,

      I know it is really scary to think about crossing, and getting treated poorly by your co-workers. For me, I just have to follow my heart, and know that I went into nursing for the patients. As I decided what to do for the one-day strike, I just kept going back to my nursing code of ethics. That, and another co-worker who told me that she didn’t care what people thought about her, she was there for the patients. I know when I crossed last time, the leadership team was so thankful that I came to work. It is frightening for them to be holding the place together, while the nurses are marching around on the outside. There were times when I wanted to holler out the window at the nurses who were hooting and hollering outside. Follow your heart, but just know that we are all here to support you!!!

      • Well said listenup123…..that is why I started this blog..I followed my heart and could not sit around while others bad mouthed a hospital I have the utmost respect for and has always supported me and respected me.

    • Posted by microage97 on June 25, 2010 at 11:44 pm

      You should resign from the union. if you have any feeling of retaliation, go to the HR department. SERIOUSLY. Action will be taken to fix the situation……

    • Posted by Angie on June 26, 2010 at 12:00 am

      Please report this! Unacceptable! Reminds me of bullies on a playground. It saddens me that nurses are intimidated like this. Imagine what would happen if we were not…

      • Just so you know the MNA reps are talking to members about the strike….so please report them if they are intimidating to your manager and HR!

        • Posted by drichmn on June 26, 2010 at 9:56 am

          post this is the strike countdown topic too. It’s important to have in more than one place.

  7. Posted by email on June 25, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    If anyone is interested, there is a website that allows anyone to e-mail the President to tell their story and ask for help. Perhaps if enough people e-mail, the strike will get Washington’s attention and force the hand of the nurse’s union.

    http://www.emailthepresident.com/

  8. Posted by Mary on June 25, 2010 at 3:44 pm

    How long do you anticipate this strike lasting? days? or weeks?

  9. Posted by wyzeguy on June 25, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Is there an email address for anurse or this blog that we can send to?

  10. Posted by drichmn on June 25, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Interesting information from the hospital I work at. It was the federal mediator that asked for the Tuesday session. He wanted both sides to take time to consider their positions in light of the negotiations yesterday. MNA agreed and then agreed to the media blackout. Yet only hours later they said they were issuing their strike notice. So the Tuesday timeframe is not at all as they are presenting it.

    • Posted by Leyla on June 25, 2010 at 5:56 pm

      I was wondering about the conflicting stories there. I’m inclined to trust the hospital before MNA.

  11. Posted by wyzeguy on June 25, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    Question. The hospitals have been decent really in their actions to the nurses/union. I don’t mean to include those of you who seem to be more reasonable. The hospitals have always used the term ‘lock out’ as in no strike/no lock out. I am wondering what opinions are on the hospitals preemptively locking out the nurses PRIOR to July 1st preventing July benefits from being issued. I assume if one crosses the line, this does not apply.

    • Posted by Leyla on June 25, 2010 at 6:01 pm

      I wondered about this as well. It’s my understanding that if the hospitals lock out the nurses, then the nurses can immediately file for unemployment. I have no idea how that plays out financially for the hospitals (increase in unemployment verses paying health insurance premiums). I also think the hospitals are doing well with winning public support right now, and they might hurt that with an early lock out.

      • Posted by microage97 on June 25, 2010 at 11:47 pm

        Ya if they do then we will be hearing the whining for years how the strikers were done wrong by the evil hospitals it is was the workers that left their perfectly good jobs……

    • Posted by zzzzzzx6 on June 27, 2010 at 9:57 am

      A “preemptive” lockout is technically possible. I submit however the practical odds are zero. The cost of July benefits dwarfs compared to an unfair labor practices charge by MNA, the offence it will create toward the MNA nurses who might cross, and the public image damage it would cause. As well, it is a huge tactical mistake that hands a “gift” to the MNA.

      z

  12. Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 25, 2010 at 4:28 pm

    “MNA Nurses will file a formal strike notice on June 25th, setting the stage for the largest open-ended RN strike in U.S. history.”

    This is on the MNA website. The MNA has been pushing for this strike all along!! They are letting this go to their heads at the expense of all of us and our hospitals. I just can’t believe they are pushing for this at such great expense. The environment of our nursing units will take years to recover from this. It is a sad day to be a nurse in Minnesota.

    I stand with all of you on this blog–thank you to the person who created this blog for giving us a safe place to come and share our feelings. I will be crossing the line and standing with the leadership in my unit and taking care of my patients come July 6th. I am so glad to see there are others who share my feelings. I believe it is ethically and morally wrong to walk out on our patients.
    I am also grateful not only to have a job in this economy, but to also have a job that I love!!!

    • I will be there with you as will many of our co-workers!

    • Posted by Leyla on June 25, 2010 at 6:03 pm

      I agree 100% ! I’m so glad I saw the link to this website in the Star Trib comments. I knew I wasn’t alone! In the minority, yes, but not alone!

      • Posted by anotherview on June 25, 2010 at 7:30 pm

        Not so sure you are as “minority” as you think. I think there is a lot of support in hiding. With all the fear and intimidation I understand the concern with coming forward. Stay strong! The non-nursing folks support you.

    • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 25, 2010 at 6:14 pm

      Thank you both…this blog is truly a breath of fresh air. If we would have had this blog before the first strike, I would have crossed then as well. I think I speak for everyone here that it is reassuring to now know that we are not alone.

      • I will be working right along side you..except we won’t know who we are…maybe we should put our “handle” on our name badges!!

        • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 26, 2010 at 10:43 am

          That is a good idea, or even just a sticker of some sort, like a certain color sticky dot, so we will know that we first met here. Is anybody interested in doing this? I am for sure interested.

          • Posted by drichmn on June 26, 2010 at 11:13 am

            That would work as long as people are comfortable with being more public that you oppose the strike. I believe you said you are comfortable with that in another post, so just pick a color dot and post here what it is and that you will be wearing it on your namebadge. I will put up a post about it so anybody interested in joining you can do the same.

            If you prefer to just start wearing a sticky dot at 7am on 7/6, I will say that.

            Or maybe I’ll say that those who are uncomfortable now can just wait until then and those who are comfortable can start before.

            Post what you decide in this topic and in the strike countdown topic as well.

            • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 26, 2010 at 11:45 am

              I would say lets wait until 7/6 to start wearing the sticky dots, that way if there are any MNA trollers here, they won’t be there. So anybody who is interested in meeting each other and supporting each other will know who we are. Not sure what color I will be wearing yet, so will post closer to the 6th and let you all know. (I have to go buy some sticky dots)
              The colored sticker will also let the replacement nurses who have found us here know who we are out in the units as well.

            • Posted by drichmn on June 26, 2010 at 12:16 pm

              I’ll post it closer to the first day of the strike when you know the color. Just email or post it in the comments when you’re ready. I think it’s a good idea.

            • Great idea!

            • As there are people reading this blog who are supporting the strike I think it best to wait as to not be singled out ahead of time by co-workers.

          • Posted by Sorry on June 26, 2010 at 2:34 pm

            From someone who will most likely be at one of the sites supporting, I will be looking for those dots. Please stay away from the outspoken MNA red.

          • I like that idea!

  13. Posted by Fed-up Nurse on June 25, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    I have tried my hardest to support the union and will “attempt” to continue to do so. However, this time I do believe the nurses are being unrealistic and unreasonable in their proposals and concessions. The majority of the public IS NOT in support of the nurses despite what the union would like us all to believe. Furthermore, the union boasts an “overwhelming vote in favor of strike” – Do they not realize that this overwhelming support was from those members that actually voted?!?! Nurses please do your research– legalities are still pending and the union may not “win” all the suits that were filed. The truth is – if you strike – you could potentially loose your job, despite what the unuion is telling us!!! This nurse is thinking twice ….

    • fed-up nurse….I know there are many nurses who are thinking twice. The ULP strike is not a for sure thing as MNA wants its members to believe. however, if you read FB comments nurses are ready to give up everything for MNA…this is a scarey place to be!

      • Posted by microage97 on June 25, 2010 at 11:51 pm

        wow…did you know that there is a glut of nursing grads in MN who can’t find work. Supposedly there are about 2yrs worth for grads looking for work. I bet many of those grads would step right up into the striking nurses positions…. just think back to the NWA strike…will the union make your car, house payments, or put groceries in the fridge?

  14. Posted by WhyIsItSo hard on June 25, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    How hard is it to resign from the union? If they have fewer members they have less power. I know the social repercussions can be hard, but if you take power away it might help
    Niave comment from a non nurse

    • Posted by Leyla on June 25, 2010 at 6:08 pm

      It’s not hard to resign at all.

      Here’s an excellent website that explains how to resign, as well as what your rights are, and the union’s obligations once you do resign.
      http://nrtw.org/a/a_3_p.htm
      The bottom of the above webpage has a link to a sample resignation letter, all you have to do is plug in the MNA address and the name of your hospital.

      Unfortunately, after resignation we are still obligated to pay an “agency fee.” For MNA it is still $48 or 49 per month. Roughly $10 less than full members have to pay.

      • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 25, 2010 at 6:16 pm

        Make sure to send your resignation letters with delivery confirmation, so you have proof that your letter was received by MNA prior to the strike date. I am going to write my letter tonight!!

      • Posted by drichmn on June 25, 2010 at 6:46 pm

        I’m not going to be as timely as I want in updating the FAQ’s with your excellent information and links, there’s some bad weather going on where I am and I’m not at my main computer to post. But rest assured I will update them. You’ve provided some excellent information for those who wish to resign and who wish to cross the picket line.

        Thank you.

  15. Posted by Janey on June 25, 2010 at 5:58 pm

    Please know that any nurse who crosses, will have a huge support from many of us ancillary staff that help you. We truly appreciate your thoughtfulness beyond the MNA. If you are targeted, many of us will stand by you as you report it.

    • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 25, 2010 at 6:16 pm

      Thank you!! this means so much!!

    • Janey…yes thank you so very much….nice to know we can have each other’s back…and we do realize how this might affect ancillary staff as well and we are sorry for that.

    • Posted by Patientcaresupport on June 26, 2010 at 4:03 pm

      You all will absolutely be supported by your “support staff” for coming in to work and help us take care of patients and keep them safe! I will be looking for those dots and you will all get a great big hug!!!

      • Thanks to the support staff that are always there to support us…we know how this may affect you all as well and we want no part in others losing their jobs because of a nursing strike.

  16. Posted by Steaming on June 25, 2010 at 6:32 pm

    Harassment is simply not tolerated. Nor is bullying at schools. I personally will make it my number one focus to stop it. I can’t stand the people who say there is a list from 84. Who cares. Leadership interviews, hires for promotions, position change etc. MNA does not have any control of how your career grows. They spend most of their time defending ill behavior in HR with their memeber’s who have sloppy Nursing practice or mouths that match the reps unprofessional mouths.

    Hold your head high and know that you may have a few minor people express their opinion but for the most part they hold nothing over you. Plus think how cool it will be when you work with the people who also crossed. Division at the bedside will happen but there are 2 sides to division and I know the RN’s who cross will have better days ahead because you followed your heart not your paycheck.

    When it comes time to re-bid, etc Many nurses are going to be very sorry they did not support their patients and employers. Remember who does your review, signs your paycheck etc. Not MNA.

  17. Posted by Steaming on June 25, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    In addition, no out side party counted the votes for strike…This % is made up and they made it up to support a national agenda. NNU is trying to save face by being blocked in California. MNA memebers who have had concerns, have been given the talk to the hand. It will serve them right to have RN’s resign and cross. That is a way to show them a clear message because they are in the driving seat and this can be expected every 3 years that contract time comes around. This is a very scary Union and anyone is crazy to belong. MNA was decent under ANA but NNU is radical and looking to make the state of MN an example. I question how Susan Mason can actually sleep at night. Shame on MNA.

    If they are trying to sell the hospitals want to Union Bust, they are covering up please don’t leave the Union while we fight this National agenda for DeMoro. I believe the bright, critically thinking MN RN’s see right through this and will resign and bust MNA themselves. Rock on!!!

    • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 26, 2010 at 12:49 am

      I absolutely agree with you and have been saying this all along–MNA is pushing the NNU agenda. We were never even given a choice if we wanted to separate from MNA and move over to the NNU.

      • Posted by Patientcaresupport on June 26, 2010 at 4:05 pm

        I find it interesting that MNA is attacking TCH for not having a nurse be their spokesperson, however is John Nemo or Susan Mason an RN? I think not!

      • Posted by Megan on June 27, 2010 at 7:42 pm

        NNU is pushing their agenda through MNA ? MNA helped to form the NNU- this is our agenda. We want safer staffing. We want assignments to be based off of nursing intensity and patient acuity- NOT from some grid. Patients aren’t widgets… they are each unique and require different needs- we need to have the flexibility to provide that care when it’s needed- and lately, IT IS NEEDED! It’s time to start staffing nurses for surgicals and discharges- not assuming they’ll be gone by 10 am- It’s not safe for anyone- and undue stress is put upon everyone to rush a discharge out the door- STRESS is unsafe

        • Posted by drichmn on June 27, 2010 at 7:50 pm

          Isn’t it interesting that MNA didn’t follow the bylaws of ANA which requires a vote by the membership to sever ties with ANA? It is obviously the agenda of some members of MNA but we’ll never know if the majority of the membership would have called it their agenda had they known about it.

          Having a fixed ratio treats patients and nurses more like widgets. A fixed ratio is not taking staffing mix and patient acuity into account. I’d invite you to read the links in the Blogroll.

  18. Posted by tcrn2010 on June 25, 2010 at 6:44 pm

    It is the unions that represent US! SPEAK UP!
    I do not know ONE nurse who agrees with the proposed ratios.
    I do not know one nurse who won’t agree to some concessions
    Lets demand a recount!

    • Even though they don’t agree with the ratios MNA is telling them to strike so they are striking.

    • Posted by Megan on June 27, 2010 at 7:44 pm

      I am a nurse- and I know MANY nurses- I don’t know one nurse who DOESN’T agree with the proposals. Isn’t that quite the dichotomy!

  19. Posted by Replacement nurse who cares on June 25, 2010 at 6:45 pm

    How do most of you feel about working with me and other replacement nurses who will be coming in? From what I have read here, I am not concerned because you all seem very professional and focused on the patients which is what it is all about. Just curious because on the 10th we did not have any nurses cross the picket line and work with us. I have the utmost respect for how difficult that decision must be and what courage and character it takes for you to stand up for what you believe in.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 25, 2010 at 6:51 pm

      It also takes courage to come in and replace those who are striking knowing that you will be met with disdain from them. Those who are crossing and other staff in the hospital will be happy to work with you and help you learn the unit processes. We know you have the skills to take care of the patients and we also know that you are very quick learners regarding process. Those of us inside the hospitals will be focused on the patients needs and on helping you learn the ropes.

      • Posted by Replacement nurse who cares on June 25, 2010 at 6:53 pm

        Thanks! Did you notice I took the ‘scab’ out of my name? Thought that would make anurse20 happy.

        • Posted by anotherview on June 25, 2010 at 7:32 pm

          Replacement nurses were awesome! Come back anytime – we have debrief and things will be even smoother and better than before.

    • Posted by Steaming on June 25, 2010 at 7:26 pm

      I will hug and kiss you as I did June 10th. Come and get all your friends as well. You guys gave our Twin Cities patients amazing care and had wonderful attitudes. I hope you sign a long contract and enjoy all our city has to offer. It is a beautiful place to work and live.

    • Posted by RelocatedRN on June 25, 2010 at 9:11 pm

      I am just hoping that everything is welcomed for whichever hospital I get sent to if needed. This is my first time doing something like this…..I will have to figure out where to park my car so it doesnt get damaged and what not….maybe they will just have me park at a hotel and shuttle me? I will have to work something out!

      • Posted by Leyla on June 26, 2010 at 8:09 am

        I don’t think you’ll have to worry too much about your car. Nobody knows EVERYBODY, and the parking lots were still very full from MDs, CNAs, HUCs, management etc.
        Although, if you are concerned, my hospital had a nearby parking lot available with a 24/7 security guard, and they offered a shuttle service from that lot to the hospital. From what I could see the hospital was doing a very good job of being prepared and making it as easy as possible for those who chose to cross.

    • Posted by Anonymous on June 25, 2010 at 9:58 pm

      I heard nothing but good things about the replacement nurses we had at our hospital. Administrators, physicians and other staff were quite impressed with the professionalism of the replacement nurses. They all felt our patients were very well taken care of.

      • Posted by RelocatedRN on June 25, 2010 at 10:28 pm

        That’s good to hear. Do we have to fear that anything will happen to us other then dirty looks? I am living in the Twin Cities area so I would be driving to whichever hospital they send me. I am just wondering if I go out to my car at the end of the shift will it be in one piece still??

        • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 26, 2010 at 12:31 am

          The striking nurses will not be allowed in the parking ramps, so you should be ok. I talked to my manager about parking in the visitor ramp though and getting my parking validated, and she said she would get that done for me. Is anybody interested in somehow carpooling so that we can go in together at our various hospitals? I don’t know how we can do that without revealing who we are of course, so there will need to be some level of trust, but I for one don’t care if my coworkers know that I am planning to cross, so I am not afraid to “come out” so to speak if anyone is interested. I work at Minneapolis Children’s if anyone is interested in pursuing a carpool.

          • Posted by anotherview on June 26, 2010 at 5:22 am

            To RelocatedRN or other replacements or RN’s who cross – every hospital at least in Allina will offer safe alternatives to those that don’t want to drive. I know Mercy offered a couple of options and ANW as well. Just ask at your orientation or, for crossing RN’s, it should be discussed by the Work/Strike Coordinator or HR. We WILL keep you and your property safe.

      • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 26, 2010 at 12:44 am

        I too heard good things, and when I went in to check on my patients, they were both beautifully tucked in. Thank you Louise and Barbara for taking such good care of my patients in that 24 hours. I do hope you will both come back.
        I too will welcome our replacements, and will be grateful to have them, and happy to show them around and help to make the transition go smoothly for all involved…so nurses–come on up to MInnesota and spend some time with us…and look at it this way those of you from the South–at least you are coming here in the summer and not during our cold winter months!! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Posted by microage97 on June 25, 2010 at 11:58 pm

      I would say most of the support staff are pulling for you……don’t let anything pull you down!

    • Replacement nurse, many of us did not cross the picket line the first time for many reasons (off that week, vacations etc.) as it was that one day. Rest assured we will be there this time and we will welcome you and help you get oriented to the hospital and find your way around. I thank you for coming and helping us care for the patients.

  20. Posted by Janey on June 25, 2010 at 7:13 pm

    Nurses who cross and replacement nurses, please know that we will greet you with awe and respect during the strike and help you any way that we can. It is truly going to be an honor to work with nurses with such integrity. If I were a pt, I would rather be cared for by one of you, then any MNA nurse who is so focused on the politics that they have lost sight of the big picture. You are the ones who care about the pt and the team.

  21. Posted by notsureyet on June 25, 2010 at 7:31 pm

    “followed your heart and not your paycheck” Well who will be getting paid and who won’t?

    • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 26, 2010 at 12:35 am

      but who will be getting paid for the long term and who won’t? It’s not just about getting our paychecks. For me it’s about the families who have very sick children, and don’t need the added stress of this, and in the midst of meeting so many new replacement nurses(who I welcome with open arms) will also see some familiar faces to help show the replacement nurses the ropes and help them become familiar with our families. I look at what so many of our families are going through, and I just don’t understand what this is all about–we are so blessed, and the MNA is so willing to throw that all away.
      So yes, I will be getting paid, but that is not where my heart is. My heart is with our families and our patients.

  22. Posted by acsofs on June 25, 2010 at 7:48 pm

    Ditto what Janey has said!! I will be there to support all nurses who are new and those who work their scheduled shifts. I’ll help in any way possible to make your shifts as productive, safe and pleasant as can be. Each day will get better as we learn to adapt in the face of adversity.

    Patients and families will see your dedication, too, and I hope they let you know what that means to them.

  23. Posted by OBnursesdaughter on June 25, 2010 at 9:32 pm

    I just found out that the nurse I had while I was in the hospital last time I delivered will be crossing and has agreed to take me as a patient when I deliver this month- I’m pretty excited about this. I’m not too worried about having a replacement nurse but I will be happy to see a familiar face for my 5 day stay. It sounds like there are going to be at least a few nurses from my Mom’s unit crossing, probably more than the 1 day. I also talked to a friend today who is an EEG tech at two of the hospitals and he said he’ll probably be out of work there for the duration of the strike simply because they are cutting back on procedures.

  24. Posted by Steaming on June 25, 2010 at 9:47 pm

    I have tried to restrain and not mention what the replacement Nurses said on June 10th . I can’t hold it in any longer. ” What exactly do your Nurses even do here. You are so blessed with lab, pharm, techs, social work, etc. I can honestly say on the day of June 10th, I did not see a Nurse on the web or texting on their phones.Our Nurses are so busy updating their Face book accounts or checking the MNA website, it is sick. Prior to that, they were planning vacations, camps, picking paint colors etc. I hope when this is all over the RN’s elevate their own practice to be what they are leading the public to believe it really is.

    • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on June 26, 2010 at 12:39 am

      I walked into my unit one morning, and the first three computers I walked past all had games up that they were playing from nights. And even now after the first strike, they are still playing games on the computer…seems to me that could be grounds for disciplinary action. also, there are nurses texting ALL the time on their phones, and in my unit all cell phones are supposed to be turned off. It is disgusting, and I know this strike is not about safe patient care. It is all about pushing the agenda of the NNU.

  25. Posted by Janey on June 25, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    If you read the MNA facebook blogs, you can hear that there are nurses who are worried about their families and finances. Responses to them seem cold and unhelpful. It would be great if they could be directed to this website and/or made aware that they might not be the only ones feeling this way. Nurses, is there a way that we can reach out to them and let them know they aren’t alone? I feel really bad about the nurses who are being forced into this very poor decision. Not sure what I can do since I’m not a nurse

    • Posted by Anonymous on June 25, 2010 at 10:13 pm

      Those posting on the MNA Facebook page are downright nasty!

      • Posted by lorelei65 on June 25, 2010 at 11:30 pm

        I am not sure how they think they can post such things using their own names and pictures. They must be caught up in some type of mob-mentality that has skewed their view of reality. I never put anything that I wouldn’t want my own gramma to see (rest her soul) much less anything that I wouldn’t want my employer to see. Amy L and Cari T (used to work with her) have really been blasting management on there. I wouldn’t want to be them when this is all over.

  26. Posted by jemihami on June 25, 2010 at 10:01 pm

    Dark days for both sides.

  27. Posted by Anonymous on June 26, 2010 at 12:40 am

    Working in one of the hospitals with the ED, it is clear many ED nurses do not support the strike. Folks that do are gung ho and is really a mod mentality. Very agenda driven. Buckle up cause this is going to be long and it is very sad.

  28. Posted by wondering1984 on June 26, 2010 at 12:43 am

    This was on the MNA facebook site:
    “Solidarity, using your combined strength and energy to shut down the TCH facilities and help encourage the ‘weaker,’ less sure among us”….
    and I really chuckled. In my mind, those of you who are critically examining the issues and thinking for yourselves are the stronger ones. MNA is underestimating your strength.

  29. Posted by anurse20 on June 26, 2010 at 1:11 am

    I found you! What a great idea this site is. Looks like this is going to happen. Deep breath and lets go, it’s going to be a bumpy ride. I can already feel the anger and see the dirty looks as many in my unit are crossing. It seems that none of us are that concerned about it being a big secret. I work 12 hours on the 6 and 7 of July so I hope to be able to get the replacements organized and used to our unit. My manager has been great with all this no judgements but gets us any info we need right away.
    Replacement who cares…. Love the new Name hope you get Southdale for a hospital we would be lucky to have you.
    I have some e-mails I kept from MNA that says if we resign we will loose our MNA insurance and our pension. Not true HR told me this was false and I checked with the NRTW and they agree. Hmmm lies from MNA and the truth from my HR. This spoke volumes to some co-workers about the ability of MNA being there for us.
    I must say I am shocked by the vote, for a brief moment I thought I was the wrong one. 87% are you kidding me. The hard part will be watching friends go out that I know from a finacial status should be working. They also really do not want this strike going out and falling further behind then they already are.
    Thank you again for this site it is a great place to put down my thoughts. Sorry if I ramble but just processing everything right now.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 26, 2010 at 9:36 am

      welcome. I noticed that transplated and tbrady were talking kindly about us in the strib comments yesterday. Glad you found us. Hope the information and support here will be helpful to you.

      Please keep those emails from MNA or if you are comfortable doing so, forward them to me at the blog email address.

    • Posted by Replacement nurse who cares on June 26, 2010 at 3:41 pm

      anurse20, I will be at Riverside as I was last time. However, maybe there is some way to connect through Human Resources safely without publicly giving our information. Any ideas?

      • Posted by anurse20 on June 26, 2010 at 6:52 pm

        Cares
        Once the strike starts and I have crossed I will let everyone know who I am. In case this settles I would just rather that not be out yet. Do not need extra crap from MNA right now. I feel some of us should get together as people who go through events like this have immed bonding.
        Please make sure your luggage is not marked at all with your agency name. Delta baggage handlers have posted veiled threats about your luggage being lost on MNAs facebook website. Do not let anyone know why you are here. This is a nasty strike and MN is a big union city….Everyone is in the union here. I know you are smart but I just want you to be careful.

  30. Posted by RN on June 26, 2010 at 8:32 am

    Has anyone spoken with their HR about plans to protect those of us who cross the line if/when there is re-bidding for positions? I’ve heard concerns that if a contract is finally resolved, MNA would try to add something to the contract that would force the hospitals to hurt us during the re-bid process. I’d like to think there’s no way the hospitals would allow that.

    Thanks to anurse for your courage and support.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 26, 2010 at 8:54 am

      I can’t imagine that the hospitals would do anything to hurt those who crossed the picket lines to care for patients. Does MNA really want to try that when the contracts that do settle will be scrutinized and their plan exposed? And how would MNA like to have ULP filed against them? Unions are subject to ULP complaints as well.

      You will hear all kinds of claims being made, if you ever have questions go straight to your manager and HR. Don’t let them scare you because from the comments here it’s obvious to me they are trying to do that.

      • Posted by Angie on June 26, 2010 at 1:08 pm

        I was told by my manager that for RN’s who cross, your work agreement, hours, unit etc, are protected.

  31. Posted by ProfessionalRN on June 26, 2010 at 11:04 am

    For the one day strike I was told by my manager that the replacement nurses were a very professional and competent group. I was not scheduled that day though volunteered to worky manager said she preferred us to not cross for the one day and risk hostility or unhealthy work environment. There are at least a dozen on my unit crossing and I can speak for all of them when stating you will be welcomed and treated well! Thank you!!

    • Posted by anurse20 on June 26, 2010 at 11:38 am

      That is what my manager told us as well. She really wanted us to go out for the one day and not face a headache when we came back. She has been great at getting us info and we have around 20 that will cross.

  32. Posted by jemihami on June 26, 2010 at 11:32 am

    I just from volunteering at the HeartBeat 5000 walk/run and spoke to a lot of families that had a connection with Children’s Hospitals & Clinics. Though many were concerned about the pending strike, they all had nothing but glowing comments for the nurses, support staff and facilities. Let’s hope that these negotiations don’t sour those that we care for.

  33. Posted by jemihami on June 26, 2010 at 11:34 am

    Actually, “I just >returned< from volunteering" …

  34. Posted by Linda on June 26, 2010 at 11:44 am

    Blessings to every one of you willing and planning to cross. I pray for safety and protection to you and your loved ones. You are doing the right thing. As the numbers of RN’s crossing get larger you become the moving train that hopefully more just want to get on because this train is a train of hope, professionalism and care. If I was in MNA I would lead the charge to break up the union. Clearly MNA is NOT representing its members. Did they ask members if they wanted to pull out of ANA? Did they ask members if they wanted to join NNU? Are they asking members what is most important to them and what concessions they would make? Are they doing any communication in a respecful and truthful manner? Those are questions I would ask especially if I was paying for their representation. Just from comments in this blog MNA is NOT representing you. Unions had a place 100 years ago but today employees are very protected by labor laws, OSHA, employment regulations etc. The life of a union today is only viable if they can make their members anti – management so they then can step in to save the day. Leaders at ANW care deeply about EVERY person working. They do not care more for one group over another. They are very talented and skilled at managing in a very challenging health care environment and still providing excellent care to patients and familes. Again I am so proud of our leaders. Leaders, if you are reading these blogs – please do not back down on the demands that will devastate our hospitals in the future. Sounds like you have lots of support from the true professional and caring RN’s that are posting and supportive of what this site is standing up for.

    • I am told a nurse asked at the all nurse meeting asked if they could survey the nurses to find out what concessions they would concede on…and they were told there wasn’t time.

      • Posted by drichmn on June 26, 2010 at 4:49 pm

        interesting they don’t want to hear from their members about what they want and are instead calling all the shots. MNA’s lead negotiator has been away from the bedside for 21 years. Much has changed in that time. And if the MNA reps at the hospital aren’t soliciting members input then how can they be representing you to MNA’s negotiator’s?

  35. Posted by OBnursesdaughter on June 26, 2010 at 12:11 pm

    A few questions:
    Are there numbers on how many crossed for the one day strike by chance?
    If so many of these nurses hate TCH so much, why don’t they find another place of employment? All of this isn’t going away simply by signing a contract and they (TCH) are the employers- not MNA. I guess I don’t understand why someone would stay somewhere that they think is such a bad place to work for in the first place (if they REALLY believe that at all). I can’t imagine going through all of this and thinking when I go (if I get to go) back to work everything is going to be fine and dandy. I would ask this on the MNA FB page but I think it would just be deleted.
    Thanks everyone- I support the nurses here- not the MNA agenda.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 26, 2010 at 12:25 pm

      I’m sure the hospitals know how many crossed for the one day strike but they are not giving out that information. And I think that’s wise of them.

      Thanks for your support. It’s appreciated. Your sister posted here once. ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Posted by OBnursesdaughter on June 26, 2010 at 1:21 pm

        She apologized to me for that- she’s my nanny and didn’t realize she was logged on as me- you can delete that if you’d like. It’s going to be a long strike for our family!

    • Exactly! Even if MNA nurses get what they want I doubt they will be happy and we could be looking at doing this again in 3 years!

  36. Posted by Anonymous on June 26, 2010 at 12:45 pm

    I will be a patient during the strike and all the antics make me nervous. The nurses who use the word “Scab” really get me. These people are coming in to care for your patients! And then on the MNA facebook they talk about “scabs” working 5 – 12’s. I have to admit my spouse works in a hospital and ensures that people are alive and breathing everyday after surgery, has had his license on the line, and he works 60 hours a week at the least. For those who cross the line, thank you! You will make my care and that of my children to be born during the strike that much better. Thank you for not following the pack.

    As with every profession there are great people and those that should move on.

    • Posted by anurse20 on June 26, 2010 at 12:59 pm

      Labor and delivery is going to be a high cross area at my hospital. No worries you will be taken care of.

      • Posted by OBnursesdaughter on June 26, 2010 at 1:24 pm

        I’ve gotten to know many of the OB nurses at the hospital I will deliver at through my last pregnancy (mono-di twins) and through this one (what can I say- hyperemesis brings you in a lot!) and I am happy to know my favorites will be crossing.

        • Posted by Anonymous on June 26, 2010 at 1:35 pm

          I hope some will be crossing at ANW. OBnurse sorry about the hypermesis! PTL has brought me in for weeks and a couple of times kept me in. Good luck with the rest of your pregnancy.

    • I agree….I have said many time if nurses are that unhappy where they work find another job and let those of us who love our jobs stay and work in peace.

  37. Posted by Shocked-RN on June 26, 2010 at 10:57 pm

    If any of you think the MNA hasn’t already gotten away with threatening and intimidating crossers you are crazy. One of my co-workers at Unity hospital that crossed on June 10th had her locker marked with black paint and her personal pictures on the locker vandalized.

    • Posted by NoncontractRN on June 26, 2010 at 11:13 pm

      OMG thats awfull!!! Does the hospital admin. or HR know about this or is she afraid to talk to anyone about it (not that i blame her)..No one should have to work under such hostile conditions..

    • Posted by drichmn on June 26, 2010 at 11:21 pm

      I do hope that she reported it immediately to security.

  38. Posted by notsureyet on June 27, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    Does anyone know if our names will be posted somewhere? Not like the other staff don’t know who we are but just wondering. If people chose to cross because they have no other financial choice I don’t see how we can be punished. I don’t like the idea of crossing at another striking hospital, if I am going to cross, I will cross at my own hospital and shouldn’t have to answer to anyone, but people haven’t been professional so far- don’t expect that they will be when they are all picketing and I am working.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 27, 2010 at 4:38 pm

      Are you asking if MNA will post the names?

    • Notsureyet- I haven’t seen pofessionalism in what MNA is doing so I am not holding out alot of hope. For whatever reason you cross know that there will be many of us there to support you and will be right along side you when this is over.

  39. Posted by notsureyet on June 27, 2010 at 4:59 pm

    Yes I would think they would want to hang us out on the line!

    • Strength in numbers….and our numbers are growing every day! Last week I thought I was pretty alone….now a week later I know there is so much support out there….not only by other nurses but by our wonderful ancillary staff, the public, and the list continues to grow!

      • Posted by Janey on June 27, 2010 at 11:18 pm

        You are supported, both by staff and the public. Please don’t let MNA scare you. You are the ones who are truly putting pt care first. We appreciate and respect you and will support you!

  40. Posted by MNA nurse on June 27, 2010 at 5:42 pm

    This has obviously been started by management. Like we aren’t smart enough to figure that out.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 27, 2010 at 5:45 pm

      wild speculation will also not be tolerated on this blog. I can assure you that neither the blog owner nor I am in management. This line of comment only seeks to divide and we will delete posts with that as their intention.

    • Posted by Janey on June 27, 2010 at 10:58 pm

      Dear MNA nurse,

      Please go back to your MNA website. We don’t post there, you shouldn’t post here. FYI, I am not management, nor am I paid by the hospitals, like the MNA website would like you to believe. I am an employee of one of the 14 hospitals, and I plan to help the hospital any way I can to let you spend your time on a strike line, making your point. I have no support for you. I previously worked in EMS and can tell you, that I have spent 13+ years watching families change in seconds. I cannot believe that you would put a “job” before your own families. I have read on the MNA website, several nurses who are worried about hardships during the strike. Funny, those blogs disappeared. I cannot believe that anyone would put anything before their families wellfare. In this economy, I appreciate the fact that I can help support my spouse and children. They are the most important thing in my life. I appreciate and respect the nurses who will cross and the nurses who will cover for you. They are the ones who truly “Care about their pt’s.” I will be honored to work by their side. Take care.

  41. Posted by notsureyet on June 27, 2010 at 11:30 pm

    Thanks Janey! Tired of feeling bad no matter which way that I turn someone will disown me! This isn’t fair to anbody involved. I do agree that walking out on our patients to proove a point to the TCH is shameful, we are professionals and should not be allowed to simply walk out on human lives! Both sides need to work harder, longer and faster to settle this, I see a train wreck ahead for both sides if we strike. Keeping positive and hopeful that the union and the hospitals will hear our pleas. LETS KEEP THOSE PATIENTS SAFE AND OUR NURSES INTACT- NO STRIKE PLEASE. (do we qualify for combat pay during all of this)?

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