Contract Negotiations Update

Please check the “Announcements”.

Childrens’ Hospital memo– identifies the latest proposals that MNA rejected.

Methodist Hospital proposalidentifies the latest proposals that MNA rejected.

Allina proposal – identifies the latest proposal that MNA rejected.

North Memorial’s proposal that was rejected by MNA.

Link to all of the proposals that MNA rejected.

This topic is now read-only.


173 responses to this post.

  1. I will continue to be in shock when people cannot understand why we will not stand behind MNA on this strike…this should be proof that they are not working for us.

    • Posted by anurse20 on June 30, 2010 at 9:15 am

      I would love to see Fairviews.

    • Posted by Anonymous on June 30, 2010 at 9:25 am

      Please help me to understand why MNA would reject this contract.

      • Anonymous…..I can’t figure it out myself so can offer no explanation.

      • Posted by goodnurse19 on June 30, 2010 at 9:33 am

        Could it be that they are just bent on striking? After all it will go in the history books as the BIGGEST STRIKE IN HISTORY. If they accept, will it make them look weak?

        • Posted by Joelle on June 30, 2010 at 1:40 pm


        • Posted by Vonnie on June 30, 2010 at 7:50 pm

          The literature coming from the NNU sounded militant even before negotiations began in March. The NNU was set on holding a strike in Minnesota because of the large number of union nurses here.

          • Posted by Godismystrength on July 1, 2010 at 5:10 am

            Are there any North Memorial RNs out there that are going to cross besides me? We really need to connect. Strength in numbers and those that are scared presently, I am convinced would cross eventually. Especially if they see a group doing it together. Any thoughts?

            • I have been on the fence with this whole negotiation process since the beginning. However, the latest tactics of our Union has sent me fleeing. I can no longer support their agenda, and it is quite obvious that they do not have our best interest in mind. They are clearly hell bent on striking. We should have been able to vote on the hospital’s latest offer. I honestly think they were afraid we would have accepted it and there goes all the hype and publicity for them. Have they forgotten what kind of economic times we live in? This was a very reasonable offer. I too will be working next week and will gladly resign from the union. I feel a great sense of relief at my decision, as I think I have known all along that this is the right thing to do.

            • North Memorial RN, I think they made a very bad decision and will now have to live with the consequences….they pushed many more nurses into crossing who were undecided. I feel relief, but yet am still scared by what our future will bring.

            • Posted by drichmn on July 1, 2010 at 10:00 am

              Thank you for letting us know. We’ll be here as much as we can next week although we’re lining up someone not involved in the strike to keep tabs on the comments. “anurse” and I will be working too.

      • Posted by wildfox on June 30, 2010 at 11:41 am

        I think they want to be known for holding “the biggest nurses strike” in history.

        • wildfox…we will be known for caring for our patients.

          • Posted by pinkcoat on June 30, 2010 at 2:15 pm

            I respectfully disagree. No one will gain anything from this strike and the patients have the most the lose. It is no secret that our country is in an economic recession. People are without jobs and insurance, but still get sick. The hospitals are already losing money that sustains patient care and a strike will make it even more difficult.

            I am proud to say I work at a hospital where we work together. Staffing isn’t always perfect but we have a common goal and we make it work together with management. We have to be flexible because illness, by nature, is unpredictable. I am disappointment that the MNA made the decision to strike and not make a genuine effort to negotiate.

            • pinkcoat, I have always thought we worked together also…not sure where the attitudes are coming from that now say how poorly we have been treated.

          • Posted by wildfox on June 30, 2010 at 5:36 pm

            MNA’s latest stunt by rejecting Allina’s offer last night backfired. Many nurses who were pro-union now have doubts that MNA has their best interests at heart. Many people are now considering crossing the picket line. It is amazing how 1 day can change the jagged path we were all on.

          • Posted by wildfox on June 30, 2010 at 7:18 pm

            YES we will ! We have been on the side of good all along and after MNA’s performance last night we were proven to be right.

        • Posted by wishiwereinmaui on June 30, 2010 at 5:24 pm

          sadly this is NOT what we should be known for, as it over shadows who we are, what we do, and what we stand for…it contradicts all those yard signs ….we should have had a say in the latest offer, it was very acceptable…

      • Posted by SD HCW on June 30, 2010 at 11:52 am

        Because the inmates are now in charge of the asylum.

    • Posted by Anonymous on June 30, 2010 at 11:33 am

      do you have a copy of the updated proposals from all the hospitals, say North Memorial? I like how Childrens laid it out so clearly.

    • Posted by Vonnie on June 30, 2010 at 7:47 pm

      The offer from our hospital was very generous particularly in view of the economic climate. The Minnesota Nurses union is being used by the NNU to push the national agenda of patient ratios. We are being used by MNA. That is the reason our MNA reps said no to the hospital’s offer last night. I believe the majority of nurses would have accepted the hospital’s offer if we would have been given the opportunity to vote. So we will just have to vote with our feet and cross that picket line or walk away from the MNA.
      We stand to lose far more than we could ever regain after even 2 weeks of striking without pay. Check out the link which was posted elsewhere in the blog:

  2. Posted by rnfor8yrs on June 30, 2010 at 9:33 am

    new to this site. just heard about it and very thankful that there is support out there for those of us who are not in favor of all this. If we plan to cross the line sometime during the strike do we have to resign from MNA, can you explain to me how this works? Sorry if you have covered this before.

    • Posted by anurse20 on June 30, 2010 at 9:45 am

      Not to promote fear. However there is a chance that if you miss your first shift you will be on strike status and COULD be locked out. When I contacted HR and my Manager they could not confirm or deny this, They are having meeting this weekend to work on strike plans and I do not know if lock out status will be made know prior to the strike.

    • Posted by Leyla on June 30, 2010 at 9:47 am

      I encourage you to look under the “Resigning from MNA” tab at the top of the page. There is a link to a FAQ with more information.
      MNA can “reprimand” you for crossing if you retain membership. Their by-laws don’t specifically say they can/will fine crossing members, but I wouldn’t trust that to mean they won’t do it.
      When you resign membership the contract will still apply to you in its entirety, pension, raises, health insurance, all of it. You become a “fair-share” member, which means you still pay MNA an agency fee (roughly $10 less/month than members), MNA still has to represent you in grievances or disciplinary action. All you really lose is the right to participate in votes, or to run as a representative.

  3. Posted by answer to prayer on June 30, 2010 at 9:34 am

    I am dumbfounded!

  4. Posted by anurse20 on June 30, 2010 at 9:38 am

    I saw Fairviews Wow we should have been able to vote on it. If there was in doubt at least I know My hospital tried to avoid this disruption. I would love you to see the proposal but am not yet ready to have my email out there. Fairview is aware of this blog and has sent nurses here. If you call HR they will email it to you. If not let me know if there is another way I can get it to you. I could try and cut and paste.

    • Posted by nursehubby on June 30, 2010 at 10:37 am


      If you’re uneasy about sending something from your e-mail, you could start up a new hotmail or gmail account and just send it from there.

  5. Posted by rnfor8yrs on June 30, 2010 at 9:39 am

    I just read the posted proposals by the hospital to MNA. Agree’d how can you walk away from these offers. The only one I question is the MLOA’s since it doesn’t specify length of shift (8 vs 12hrs). Otherwise we are idiots not to take it and run. This is going to get ugly and go on for awhile. Thank you again for letting us post our thoughts here. Man if I were to post this on the facebook page I would be hunted down. Anyone going to the meetings today? I can’t set foot in a room with them again or I will get to worked up.

  6. Posted by care4patients on June 30, 2010 at 9:44 am

    The hospitals recently put out information on how to resign from the union and are recommending you resign from the union prior to crossing the picket line. The union is unable to sanction RNs that cross if they are not part of the union. The down side is you get to continue to pay union dues. I believe 42 RNs have resigned from the union already.

    • careforpatients, I think that number will climb…remember post offices are closed on Monday so get in mail no later than Saturday and send certified with a return receipt.

    • Posted by Rn4Life on June 30, 2010 at 9:52 am

      If you resign from the union, I was informed you will only have to pay a service fee (approx $50). You can talk to your HR dept and definitely to your manager before crossing.

  7. Posted by nostrike on June 30, 2010 at 10:01 am

    I heard a rumor that around 900 nurses plan to cross the picket line and work. This is a rumor, I don’t know where it came from or how legit it is.

    • nostrike, could that be the number of nurses who have already submitted resignations? I know many are going in the mail in the next couple days.

    • Posted by Anonymous on June 30, 2010 at 8:37 pm

      Allina stated that there are more 130 confirmed crossing through the phone call process and over 75 that have consulted HR about it.

  8. Posted by concerned nurse on June 30, 2010 at 10:10 am

    I just read the posted Children’s Hospitals proposal (Thank you nostrikefornurese, it was the only place I could find a actual proposal). If Allina-Mercy was offered anything like this, I can’t understand why they didn’t accept it. Get the staffing ratios off the table, they won’t work, we do need to be a little flexible, just like we are now. We can still have safe staffing without ratios! It could be safe to have 5 patients, and it could be unsafe to have 2 patients-it depends on the acuity and what that patient is doing. I really hope they can go back to the negotiation table before the strike. But I think what I have read here is true-MNA is set on being the biggest strike in history. What they don’t realize is that they won’t because if they continue to decline the lastest proposal, more and more nurses are either going to resign and cross or just hope for the best and cross. They are losing support. And if you read the headlines on-line from wcco, kstp, kare11-it makes MNA look bad. So they will not have public support either.

    • Posted by goodnurse19 on June 30, 2010 at 10:16 am

      Your argument against ratios is extremely reasonable. Also, ratios may promote nurse “laziness” among those who already have that propensity. All of us have worked with those nurses.

    • Posted by marygracern on June 30, 2010 at 10:21 am

      I agree with you on several fronts…I heard this morning that the TCH has asked the union to form a group to study an acuity-based staffing plan in collaboration…I cannot believe the response which was “been there done that and it didn’t work in the legislature”…I have seen AMAZING work by smart and committed MNA nurses so I just don’t buy that a collaboration would not work! I do not have colleagues who support the staffing ratio as the strike reason…now that pension concessions by the hospital have also been offered up I don’t get it? Looks like the one and only MNA agenda is to strike…that is what the hospitals have been saying all along…proof is in the pudding on this one! Just wish they didn’t have to drag down good, hard-working professionals and some nationally ranking facilities in the process.

  9. Posted by Linda R Larson on June 30, 2010 at 10:13 am

    Hospitals don’t have to bust the union. They are doing it themselves. I admire and am so proud of all of you for taking a stand for your profession and for patient care. BLESS YOU ALL.

    • thanks Linda…..and yes for MNA to claim the hospitals are busting the union …the union just helped that one out themself with what they did last night. We are continuing to stand up for pt care!

  10. Posted by SD HCW on June 30, 2010 at 10:24 am

    I want to let you all know that many of your South Dakota peers stand behind you in support of your decision to stand up for your patients and continue to work during the upcoming strike. I work in pharmacy, (but after finishing my undergrad I worked as a Critical Care Tech in an ICU for 3 years, so I’ve walked in your shoes) and no one in my depart can comprehend a health care worker that would walk out on their patients. It’s unethical, immoral, and just NOT what we are about.

    I have to wonder what the mood is in the other departments of your institutions? I work for one of the large systems in SD, and we really work to emphasize that we are a TEAM — from the MD to the housekeepers, none of us can do our jobs well without the others, and although our roles are different, no one is more important the the other. I know that if our nurses were demanding better (and I think unreasonable based on the current economics in medicine) benfits and pension plans than the rest of the staff, I would be FURIOUS! I’ve seen many comments on this and other boards about employees at your institutions that have had to take pay-cuts, and lower seniority RN’s who have been laid off, all to support raises for contract nursing staff. That sure doesn’t sound like a “team” concept of caring for patients — it sounds like a “to h#$l with the rest of you!” statement. As everyone in healthcare knows, there was a real reimbursement crisis at this time last year. One of our systems got a 0.25% baseline raise and a 1% lump sum payout, and at the other system, ALL the staff, from MD’s on down took pay cuts and a temporary reduction in the number of hours of vacation accrued per pay period in order to prevent lay-offs. MD’s and Sr. administrators took cuts of around 10%, while the general “worker bees” were a little under 5%. Most employees were gratefull to still be employed, and while the loss in pay was felt, employees were most unhappy with the reduction in vacation time! As of last week, all of those cuts have been restored, and the system’s bottom line is healthier than ever, allowing for expanded services to patients in rural areas and the implementation of exciting, new, cutting-edge technology at their flagship hospital. In short, allowing for delivery of BETTER patient care.

    I also am left wondering how RN’s working in Magnet facilities can argue that they are staffed at “unsafe” levels? The fact that they achieved Magnet status, and kept it, flies in the face of their arguments. I also don’t know how they can continue on this track with Thompson Reuters reporting last week that one of your systems is in the Top 10 in the country in patient outcomes, and many of the others ranked in the Top 100 (based on CMS data). Their aruments are not supported by the data. Mandated staffing levels do not always equal qualtiy patient care. My sister-in-law (a former cardiac nurse) was hospitalized in the Bay Area last year at one of the nation’s “top” university teaching hospitals . California law mandates 1:4 staffing for both nurses and techs (in reality it is therefore 1:2 caregiver:patient), and it was some of the worst nursing care she has ever experienced! By the time she was discharged, she said she’d be embarassed to be a RN there! BTW, they are in the Air Force and have a special needs child so they have utilized health care facilities all over this country, and they both manitain that the best health care in the country is delivered right here in SD and MN — and they tell everyone that too!

    Mandated staffing levels are impractical and would contribute to the skyrocketing cost of healthcare for everyone. I have to wonder how the RN’s striking for mandated staffing would feel if those of us that work in other areas also had mandated maximum workloads? I don’t think they would be very happy if, when they put in an order for a med, the pharmacy responded that everyone had reached the mandated maximum number of meds dispensed, so they’d have to wait until the next shift came in for the med to be delivered to the unit. Or if the houskeepers stopped working while rooms were still dirty because they’d cleaned the 20 per day maximum that their contract required.

    Acuity based staffing, with adequate resource staff (Resource / charge nurses or clinical managers), floaters, and “breakers” for high needs times, along with well trained patient care techs to assist with lower level cares, is the best model for cost-effective, safe, and high quality patient care. Yep, the busy days generally outnumber the slow ones, and there’s still gonna be days when everyone’s running around like madmen/women, and you don’t even get a chance to pee (but then you usually don’t get a chance to drink either and you sweat it out, so I’ve found that sometimes isn’t an issue!), but we also know that there are alot of times when an “outbreak of good health” leaves us with low census or low acuity patients and we get a breather. It’s what we signed up for, and if you can’t hack it, maybe you need to find someplace with a slower pace. Of course, that’d probably mean less money, but then money isn’t the issue here, right?

    • Posted by goodnurse19 on June 30, 2010 at 10:33 am


    • Posted by willbecrossing on June 30, 2010 at 10:57 am

      Thank you for taking the time to say what you did, and saying it so well. Your investment and support mean a great deal to we who will be reporting to work next week. Many of us have begun to receive poor treatment already by our peers who support the strike, and thinking about the work atmosphere after the dust has settled is too much to take on right now. One day at a time. I don’t yet know of everyone who plans to cross on my unit, but as of now we number approximately 13% of our staff.

      • Posted by SD HCW on June 30, 2010 at 11:36 am

        I know a few nurses from Sioux Falls who worked the one-day strike and who have already been hired as PRN’s by a few facilites. You will be very lucky if you get to work with any of them as they are some of the smartest and best nurses I know.

        If you need a good tech to come help you out just give me a call… I’m only 4 hours away!

      • Posted by nostrike on June 30, 2010 at 12:41 pm

        Willbecrossing – Thank you for crossing and doing the right thing. If any MNA members harass you, call HR IMMEDIATELY! The hospital will protect you. Harassment is grounds for being fired.

    • Posted by starrynurse on June 30, 2010 at 11:58 am

      Yes I agree! It is so frustrating many of my fellow nurses feel they are fighting “for their patients”–when really I feel like they are just fighting for themselves to they won’t have to float, or be more flexible in staffing. We know better, we know it’s about power of the union. I feel blessed to have such a great job!

    • Posted by Mercy RN on June 30, 2010 at 1:27 pm

      Wow, and well put. Thanks SD. I tried calling the Allina line to anounce that I will be crossing. The phone was busy for 1/2 hour. I left a message and still no call back. I thought that was a good sign.

      Also God Bless Michelle for her interview, Thank you, Thank you. God Bless all of us next week.

      • Posted by Anonymous on June 30, 2010 at 3:59 pm

        I talked to one of the people taking calls at Allina this morning. She said they have six people answering extensions and cannot keep up with them because the phone is RINGING OFF THE HOOK. Those of you planning to cross – you will not be alone! The update that went out at 4 at Allina said that so far more than 135 people have signed up. Considering we didn’t get the packet until after noon yesterday, that’s a lot of people coming forward.

  11. Posted by Linda R Larson on June 30, 2010 at 10:27 am

    To drichmn. Can’t thank you enough for what you have done for nurses and nursing. When we get to the other side of this whatever it ends up to be and however it turns out I would love to celebrate YOU in some way. You have completely led the change to this critical turning point in MN nursing. You have my email from my posts. Would love to meet you. YOU are a champion!!

    • drichmn has been my angel in time of need….I thank God every day for bringing drichmn into my life at this time….truely a champion for nurses!

      • Posted by drichmn on June 30, 2010 at 1:23 pm

        I couldn’t have done it without you “anurse”. You built the house and I just helped you put the curtains up. 🙂

        • Posted by Linda R Larson on June 30, 2010 at 3:02 pm

          YES – YOU BOTH deserve a huge celebration. I love the house you built. The foundation is very sturdy, the walls are strong, the roof is a protective covering. I believe I actually see a beautiful flower garden. OH yeah – – – the curtains are beautiful too!! THANK YOU. I look forward to meeting you both.

    • Posted by Mercy RN on June 30, 2010 at 1:57 pm

      Totally agree with this post. Would love to meet her also. drichmn gave me courage, strength, hope.

  12. Posted by acsofs on June 30, 2010 at 12:44 pm

    It would be wonderful to plan some sort of gathering at the appropriate time in the future, to meet each other. Not sure how that would work, but sure would be nice. 🙂

    • Posted by Leyla on June 30, 2010 at 1:10 pm

      It would be fun to have a potluck/picnic somewhere. I wonder if we could manage it safely (i.e. without pro-strike MNA folks disrupting us).

      • Posted by anurse20 on June 30, 2010 at 1:14 pm

        Sure we could after the strike starts we would have to do it in the hospitals just not over the internet.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 30, 2010 at 1:24 pm

      we’ll figure something out. 😉

  13. Posted by OldNurse on June 30, 2010 at 1:02 pm

    Sounds fair to me. What was MNA thinking??? At least put it to a vote…

  14. Posted by AllinaWorker on June 30, 2010 at 1:14 pm

    The following message is being sent to all Allina employees.

    June 30, 2010

    Union rejects major offer from Allina and opportunity to avert strike

    The bargaining teams met for thirteen hours yesterday, wrapping up discussions at 2 a.m. this morning. Allina made a contingent settlement offer to avoid what could be a lengthy strike. We strongly believe this would have been a reasonable contract agreement that would have created the opportunity to collaboratively explore staffing methods that work for our hospitals, addressed the staffing concerns of the nurses’ union and ensured the agreement is fair, sustainable and affordable for Allina nurses, our other employees and the communities we serve.

    Allina’s offer below was contingent on the MNA withdrawing its strike notice, recommending our settlement offer for ratification and having the bargaining units ratify the proposed contract. Late last night, the union rejected Allina’s settlement offer on behalf of its nurses without proposing any new alternatives. They indicated that they were interested in continuing the negotiations on Wednesday but only if Allina would be willing to accept a ratio staffing proposal. Read on to understand the contingent offer (view offer) that the union rejected on behalf of nurses – and why Allina cannot accept the union’s staffing ratio proposal.

    Key items that were dropped as part of yesterday’s contingent offer:

    § Pension: Allina would have dropped its pension plan proposal as part of our settlement offer. This means there would have been no changes to nurses’ pension plan during this three-year contract period.

    § Longevity Bonus: Allina would have dropped its proposal to eliminate longevity bonuses.

    § VEBA: Allina would have dropped its proposal to eliminate the VEBA, which is a insurance premium subsidy for early retirees.

    § Early Retiree Medical: Allina would have dropped its proposal to eliminate early retiree medical benefits.

    § Unit Closure: Allina would have dropped its proposal to modify the unit closure process.

    § Floating: Allina would have dropped its proposal on floating.

    § On Call: Allina would have dropped its proposal that a nurse could receive only one four-hour guarantee per four-hour period.

    § Straight Night Time Off Bonus: Allina would have dropped its proposal to modify the bonus.

    Proposals included in Allina’s contingent offer:

    § Wages: 0% year 1, 1% year 2, 2% year 3. Automatic “step” increases, which average 3%, would continue in each year under this proposal.

    § Benefits eligibility: Change benefits eligibility from .4FTE to .5FTE. This would apply to health, dental, life, sick and vacation benefits and is consistent with other employee groups.

    § Health insurance: Nurses would have the same health insurance plan choices as all other employees, effective January 1, 2011, using the current contractual premium subsidies with no differential in the costs between full and part-time nurses. This would result in a significant reduction in nurses’ premiums.

    § Low need processes: Change contract language so mandatory low need days are rotated among all regularly scheduled nursing staff on a calendar year basis; increase the cap to 48 hours; and the low need notice will be two hours for all shifts (including holidays).

    § Length of contract: The new contracts shall be effective on the date Allina’s contract proposal is ratified by the union and shall run through May 31, 2013.

    § Patient acuity collaboration: In addition, as a counter to the union’s staffing ratio proposal, Allina committed to working with the union on a three-year collaborative effort to develop a patient acuity system that aims to level the workload of nurses and patient distribution on work units. This system would factor in patient outcomes and clinical quality, unlike a rigid ratio system, which does not factor in either.

    Because the union rejected the above proposal, it has expired. Allina’s proposal as modified on June 25 is what remains on the table for consideration. You can view this proposal on the Negotiation News AKN page and on

    Very little movement made by the union, despite commitment to bargain

    The union has communicated to members its intent to negotiate, but did not follow through on that commitment during yesterday’s meeting. Based on the union’s proposals yesterday, it continues to appear the union is more interested in preparing for a strike than in settling the contract. Here are the only proposals the union modified yesterday:

    § Wages: Reduced wage demand from 4% to 3% for each year of the contract.

    § Staffing: Eliminated the clause that would have required units to close at 90% of capacity, but replaced it with a non-specific buffer requiring the availability of beds for emergencies. They also eliminated the $5,000 penalty it would have charged Allina each time the ratios or capacity caps were exceeded.

    The union’s most radical proposal is mandated staffing ratios. This staffing ratio proposal has not changed since March. Nor has Allina’s response to it. We have communicated that the union’s ratio proposal is not acceptable because of the lack of evidence that rigid staffing ratios improve patient care – and because of the significantly high cost of the proposal. Even with the changes they made, the proposal would cost – at minimum – $46 million a year and it would significantly limit our flexibility to staff based on patient care needs.

    Third party sources support what we’ve been telling the union all along. The Minneapolis Star Tribune called it “an unproven staffing solution” (June 9, 2010) and the St. Paul Pioneer Press said it’s not just about health care, “… but rather part of a larger, national show of force by nurse unions” (June 13, 2010).

    We are willing to work with the union on a collaborative approach to design staffing guidelines that are right for our patients and our community. It is unfortunate the union has committed to pushing through a model that does not take into account the industry-leading care we deliver here at Allina.

    The union has at least 16 proposals left on the table. In contrast to Allina’s movement to modify and drop many of its proposals, the union has chosen an “all or nothing” approach, using the staffing proposal as the main requirement. By doing so, the union is not honoring the pledge it made to nurses to “modify, delete, or drop” any proposal to get to settlement.

    What’s next?

    The staffing issue remains the barrier to settling these contract negotiations. Late last night, the union indicated they were interested in continuing the negotiations on Wednesday, but only if Allina would be willing to accept a ratio staffing proposal. We are not willing to bargain away the ability to staff appropriately for our patient care needs. Therefore, no additional talks are scheduled at this time.

    The union has meetings scheduled all day today to discuss Tuesday’s strike. We encourage members to be vocal with their representatives about negotiating a fair contract settlement and avoiding putting nurses, employees and our communities through the disruption of what could be a very lengthy work stoppage.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 30, 2010 at 1:26 pm

      now included in document format on the front page of this post.

    • Posted by Mercy RN on June 30, 2010 at 1:31 pm

      Are you serious, what was MNA thinking to refuse this. I’m actually hurt.

      • Posted by wildfox on June 30, 2010 at 5:42 pm

        This rejection from MNA regarding Allina’s proposals will help our patients, many nurses are now going to work and not strike.

    • Posted by starrynurse on June 30, 2010 at 1:59 pm

      I’d take it! MNA negotiators–I’m thoroughly disappointed in you.

      • We will have to wait to see how they are portraying this to the members in the meetings today.

        • Posted by care4patients on June 30, 2010 at 7:32 pm

          MNA’s twist on things at the RN meetings today were that the hospitals were not really offering to keep pension as is, they just indicated they would look at it. I have no words for the RNs that continue to believe the stuff MNA is saying to them. Seriously, Why would the hospitals put things in writing if they had not really offered it as a solution.

  15. Posted by Joelle on June 30, 2010 at 1:32 pm

    I am angered by the selfish union putting themselves first. I work at one of the hospitals and will be working EXTRA because knowbody can agree. I’m sick of it. Get your stuff together and get off your high horse!

  16. Posted by angrypatient on June 30, 2010 at 1:43 pm

    They even dropped floating, that REALLY surprised me! Unbelievable.

  17. Posted by SD HCW on June 30, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    WOW! The fact that they rejected these proposals demonstrates the mindset of the union leadership.

    • Posted by Vonnie on June 30, 2010 at 8:11 pm

      The union wants us to believe that staffing is the biggest issue. Is that really the issue?
      The nurse’s issues were satisfied with the proposals offered last night – salary increases, longevity bonus, maintaining the pension! We should be thankful!
      Only the staffing issue matters to the union. They are willing to have us suffer through a strike to achieve their goal (their national goal).

  18. Posted by Allina Employee on June 30, 2010 at 1:57 pm

    I’m of the same mind as Joelle. I have to work extra time because of this and I am salaried. So no, I don’t get paid for overtime. I have been forced to cancel a long planned family trip out of the country to provide support to the replacement workers as well.
    There have been talks that we will have to burn our PTO and mandatory PTO usage at the end of the year and layoffs. So this is the thanks I get for my sacrifices.
    Oh and the pension plan and healthcare plan that wasn’t good enough and rejected… It’s the same one I have today. Seems to be good enough to all the non-MNA employees working next to them.
    All this leaves a bitter taste in your coworkers mouths. I’m glad there are some nurses that are educating themselves to what is really going on.

    • Posted by SD HCW on June 30, 2010 at 5:18 pm

      This answers my question on how the other team members feel about this, and I’d be in exactly the same spot right now you are…

    • Posted by conflictedRN on June 30, 2010 at 9:55 pm

      I actually feel shameful for this. Please know that there are MNA nurses who are grateful for their co-workers and want nothing more to end all of this! Thank you for your sacrifices.

    • Posted by AllinaCNA on July 1, 2010 at 4:52 am

      I’m trying very hard not to be bitter towards my RN coworkers, and to not worry about getting laid off, but after reading what the union rejected on behalf of the RNs I am STEAMED! My job will be at risk because of the union agenda? I earn much less than the average RN, pay much more for my health insurance and am the sole wage earner for my family of six! I wonder how some would feel walking in my shoes?

  19. Posted by Not A Union Fan RN on June 30, 2010 at 2:25 pm

    Oops…sorry….it’s under the other discussion for today……I wish I could delete my own posts when I make a mistake!

  20. Posted by Anonymous on June 30, 2010 at 2:29 pm

    So MNA on face book is going with they were only given 45 minutes and spinning it could not bring it to 12,000 in that time period. Pretty sure they were asked to call back the strike and put it up to vote, but they are saying elsewise. Seems like THC said, this is our best offer, take it or leave it. Will give you time to sort through it and decide. Came back and were told no. Probably was the difference in the THC press release and MNA response late last night. And they simply direct nurses to “todays” meetings r/t questions.

    • Posted by wildfox on June 30, 2010 at 5:45 pm

      MNA had a responsibility to bring reasonable offers by TCH to the MNA members to vote on. They failed to do that. This is history repeating itself.

  21. Posted by Anonymous on June 30, 2010 at 3:41 pm

    I cannot believe that MNA rejected Allina’s proposal!! I am a non-contract nurse working at one of the Allina facilities. We received the email about 1p this afternoon and it got the nurses FIRED UP!!!! The sane nurses are wondering why they were not able to vote on that and why is it MNA reps making that final call. Brought through LOTS of emotions!!!!

    • It continues to make many of us sad and sickened by how MNA is using its nurses.

      • Posted by Vonnie on June 30, 2010 at 8:07 pm

        Absolutely right. This is a NNU/MNA issue only. The nurses would accept the proposals but the mighty union would lose it’s signature issue.

        • Posted by care4patients on July 1, 2010 at 8:29 am

          After several weeks into the strike, several of the members will get tired of the strike and start crossing. In the end, the RNs will have lost pay and will end up with the exact same contract that they just offered….maybe even less now.

    • Posted by Anonymous on June 30, 2010 at 3:58 pm

      I think that they are realizing that but feel it is too late. They MNA reps have them so scared, they don’t know what to do. I sure hope that they get the education that they need to make an informed decision by Tuesday….

  22. Posted by SupportiveofRNs on June 30, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    I just want to say that I have been following the developments and I am just so supportive of you nurses that truly care for patients. My mother is a nurse (however she works for a private chemical dependency facility, and is not part of the striking nurses) and I know how much her patients mean to her.

    I fully support you in your battle to go against what is popular in the real name of “The Patients” and not just out for your own agenda. It is so great to hear the compassion, and the committment that you have versus those that state they are standing up for patients, but are really in it for their own agenda (or, I believe that they are going with the flow because of fear of letting their voices be heard).

    THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!! My heart and prayers go out to you and your hospitals as you decide to cross. I am glad that the hospitals are willing to support and protect you in the ways that they are able to also.

  23. Posted by nurseon alert on June 30, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    On MNA Facebook recent postings re Unity RNs planning to cross, also on Allina site 135 so far will cross with 75 more RNs who have requested info about crossing.
    ……..perhaps the tide is turning do you think. ??????.
    ..hope this continues……MNA should have taken last nights proposal to the members for a Vote

    • Posted by answer to prayer on June 30, 2010 at 4:57 pm

      I am also Hoping this has struck a nerve and that nurses will realize all they stand to lose. This strike could go on for months and for what… the end of the day we will all most likely end up with a contract that is worse than what we have now. I

      • answer to prayer, I hope that more see the direction they are being led….I wish they would have at least allowed the nurses to vote on what the hospital proposed…perhaps they didn’t for fear they would have accepted them!

        • Posted by wildfox on June 30, 2010 at 5:50 pm

          anurse… The reason the tide is turning is because we are on the right side of this issue. All our blogging has paid off !!!

      • Posted by WillyRN on July 1, 2010 at 2:00 am

        Agreed! I feel as though I’m talking to a brick wall when I try to explain this to some of my pro union co-workers. I just stopped talking today. And the mood at work was sooo somber today when the reality hit them that this strike is going to happen. The whole “clean out your locker on the last day you work before the strike” memo we got from mgmt seemed to bring a sense of the severity of the situation.
        I feel as though the MNA is the Titanic and the few of us on board are trying to scream “look out for that iceberg” and they are not listening.
        I am one that refuses to go down with the ship!

        • Posted by care4patients on July 1, 2010 at 8:32 am

          I also will not be on the MNA sinking ship. I will be working the first day of the strike and looking forward to it now. It sure cannot be any worse than the past couple of weeks at work. I am tired of the tension.

        • Posted by care4patients on July 1, 2010 at 8:35 am

          I will not be on the MNA sinking ship. I am actually looking forward to working the day of the strike as it cannot be any worse than the tension and anger we have been working under for the past couple of weeks.

          • care4patients, the tension has been bad for a while….wish everyone could really see what this is doing to us all and how much damage this is doing to us and our hospital.

    • Posted by anurse20 on June 30, 2010 at 5:15 pm

      I have three friends who were on the fence and after last nights negotiations???? dare I call it that? They fell over to our side we now have 17 confirmed on my unit. On days 7A-7P, I do not know the final tab on nights.

    • Posted by wildfox on June 30, 2010 at 5:46 pm

      I heard the same thing today I work at Allina. The managers were busy trying to provide nurses with information how to cross picket line!

  24. Posted by JG on June 30, 2010 at 4:52 pm

    I am so sad and angry that we have come to this. I work at both a union and non union hospital. I have seen over the past 31 years how much the union has done for this profession, but I feel this time they are out of touch with reality. I would hate to see the union busted but they seem to be bringing it on themselves in their hard core stance for striking. I hope and pray that our reps realize that most of us our willing to give up the money to see our pts kept safe. We need to be able to go home at the end of the day feeling good about our pt. care and not worried if we will get sued because we were put in an unsafe position by our administration.

    • JG, I agree the union has done many good things for our profession….but I cannot continue to support them. What they did last night was appalling and by not even givng members a chance to vote, they gave up any credibility they had left in my eyes.

      • Posted by Vonnie on June 30, 2010 at 8:01 pm

        I was disgusted and embarassed today at work to see co-workers wearing the red shirts and the buttons saying “I will strike”! Would you really want someone like that taking care of your family member? Shame on them!

        • Posted by Anonymous on June 30, 2010 at 8:42 pm

          Also, do you want them working side by side with you after this is all over!! It is a disgrace to the profession..

        • Vonnie….I wish the t-shirts and the buttons could be banned…this is upsetting enough for the patients I don’t think we should bring any of this into the patient care areas.

        • Posted by wildfox on June 30, 2010 at 9:37 pm

          I find this attire absolutlely inappropraite.

        • Posted by SD HCW on June 30, 2010 at 10:31 pm

          Neither one of the institutions in Sioux Falls would stand for it — totally against dress code.

        • Posted by Not A Union Fan RN on June 30, 2010 at 11:55 pm

          The Replacement RN’s have been told NOT to wear any red scrubs during the strike 🙂
          I always pay attention to the union colors of the strike that I’m working and make sure not to wear those…..I don’t want anyone to think that I support the strike!

          • thank you…I have donated every bit of red clothing I own to the salvation army.

            • Posted by WillyRN on July 1, 2010 at 2:04 am

              This makes me sad because I love red and have a bunch of red scrubs that I haven’t been able to wear because of this!
              I don’t wanna have to go buy new scrubs, but it’s looking like I may have to …

            • Even before I decided to work next week, I could not bring myself to wear my red uniform. Funny how your unconscious mind works; instead I have gotten a lot of use out of my black uniform.
              I fear that things will never be the same at our hospitals and with our coworkers. I know by working through the strike, I will lose many friends, but I cannot do something so drastic that I do not believe in. I commend anyone who does not go with the masses, and thinks for themselves. Its easy to hide in the majority, even if you don’t agree with them. We are not sheep who follow blindly an ill advised leader.

      • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on July 1, 2010 at 12:24 am

        Unfortunately, it is no longer the same union. MNA took that away from us too when they split from the ANA and went to the NNU without allowing us to vote, even though the bylaws regarding that stated that the union needed a 2/3 vote from ALL of the members in order to protect the members from a split such as that. We weren’t even informed of the vote taking place at all!! Since finding that out, I have NO faith in MNA or that it’s members, representatives, or even the president are telling us anything close to the truth about negotiations.

  25. Posted by rndmcrzyktty on June 30, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    Here is a link on the TCH site that has ALL the proposals given to the MNA by each health care system. Also towards the bottom is what the TCH says that the MNA proposed to them. Very interesting to read.

    • Posted by drichmn on June 30, 2010 at 5:34 pm

      I updated the link in the Blogroll to go to this page. There’s a link at the bottom of the page to the original proposals.

    • Posted by WhyIsItSo hard on June 30, 2010 at 7:41 pm

      I am amazed and so appreciative at how many peope are not buying the MNA line of talk. I work in one of the organizations that are facing strikes and I support the hospitals and clinics as part of IT. From the beginning it did appear that MNA was being pretty stubborn (one thing I work on is outcomes measurement and know full well that mandatory ratios are not the answer, look at CA) What is the answer to better outcomes is teamwok and cooperation, communication (and occasionally computer changes)

      But without the teamwork and willingness to cooperate the patients get short changed. Good pattient care depends on more than nurses, it depends on cooperations, Nurses, Dr’s, janitors, CEO’s and sometimes IT folks etc etc. I am really glad that so many nurses realize this. And I am glad that some folks from my organization (FV) are considering crossing.

      When you really form a team you care about not hurting everyone else on the team by stubborn actions, you think things through and make decisions based on the whole picture.

      Thank you

      • Thank you, yes many have forgot the team part of our job.

        • Posted by WillyRN on July 1, 2010 at 2:09 am

          When I told one of my pro union coworkers that I was approached by a housekeeper on our unit who told me that he was “mad at the nurses for striking, because of how it is affecting his department and their hours”, I was thoroughly disgusted by her response. “I don’t care what they think about us! We deserve these rights that the hospital is taking away from us!”

          I haven’t spoken to her since! Yes relationships are forever lost because of this… Thanks MNA!

  26. Posted by not able to strike on June 30, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    I am dumbfounded that Childrens nurses did not accept the contract. At the many MNA meetings today its like a high school pep rally with no thoughts of the particulars.
    * 70% of new grads in several nursing schools in our area have not yet been able to find work, last year AND this year. Every one of the 12,000 nurses could be replaced by someone who wants to work. We are one of the ONLY areas in the country with a glut of nurses. I am not naive enough to think that some long term care, home care, group home nurses wouldn’t jump at the chance to work in the hospital (if that is where they wanted to work but couldn’t find a job.
    * What is the benefit of working full time if 0.4 pays the same in health insurance. I am a convinced, we should pay per whatever is the FTE…0.4 pays 60% more than Full time
    * I work a job that is not pounding the ER and ICU floors like I did for 25 years. Cartilage in my knees is shot. I cannot and will not give up a good job that makes a positive impact for patients, albeit in a different way than inpatient hospital care ( I work in OP hospital clinic–hospital pay rate)
    * My husband’s job ends on July 2
    * I refuse to delve into my retirement savings to go through an indefinite strike.
    * One paper had a blogger that said she was offered $5800 for 1 week of work, almost $24,000 per month to work during the strike. The hospitals are serious.
    * I have worked NICU, I have worked ICU, Occasionally, you get slammed. My experience was that the unit was never intentionally understaffed. All contracts have language about committees and avenues for nurses to impact staffing levels. I did find that no one addresses staffing levels in the ER, during surge at Childrens every day you are slammed, but the nurses on the floor can refuse to take an admit…ER is holding critical patients.
    * I have worked in a non-contract hospital in the past. Nurses are rewarded with merit based raises (I got 10% for 3 years in a row at Gillette). Nurses are more involved on committees than I have experienced in a union hospital so far.

    I cannot conciously chose to strike and impact my life for years. Now…I cannot be naive enough to think that when this is all over, the union is busted, that I might be fired even though I crossed because I am at the top of the pay scale. At least at that point, I would get unemployment.

    So glad to hear others are crossing for whatever reason. In 35 years, the only thing I have to thank MNA for is a great salary. I do not feel they have promoted professionalism in any way as nurses chose to often hide behind the contract.

    • Posted by Vonnie on June 30, 2010 at 8:00 pm

      I hope nurses realize that if they do delve into their retirement savings, they will have to pay taxes on that money and penalties for early withdrawal!
      I’m also glad to hear others plan to cross.

  27. Posted by Mercy RN on June 30, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    The deed is done, I finally got a hold of Allina and they will put me in the schedule for next week, I’ll send my letter to MNA tomorrow certified. I feel good that I’m doing the right thing. Thanks for the support.

    • We will continue to be here as much as possible in the days ahead…but we will be working too! I will be thinking about you all and will pray for everyone’s safety.

    • Posted by wildfox on June 30, 2010 at 9:35 pm

      Thank you for caring for our patients.

    • Posted by lovrush on June 30, 2010 at 10:11 pm

      Good job – what a relief – right?

    • Posted by Susie Q on June 30, 2010 at 10:14 pm

      As an Allina coworker thank you! I know this wasn’t easy for you. It will be great to have our nurses on site to help the replacement nurses find their way.

  28. Posted by lovrush on June 30, 2010 at 8:26 pm

    At one of the Allina hospitals, I have personally talked to many nurses who plan to work during the strike. Nearly all of L&D, a medicine unit and ambulatory areas all nearly have no strike supporters. Even today, one RN whom I have seen post things on the MNA FB page spoke to me about her decision to work. I know that she voted to strike originally, but she believed that voting to strike would force negotiations. She feels lied to by the MNA. I know that all it takes for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing. If you are on the fence – don’t sit back – stand up and be counted! Stand up against the bully union.

  29. Posted by Anonymous on June 30, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    The nurses over on facebook response is a headscratcher. It seems like they expected the nurses to vote in 45 minutes rather than representives deciding to take it to members. See mna not correcting but encouraging that line of thought. It really is high level group think and dismissing any contray information.

    • Posted by acsofs on June 30, 2010 at 10:57 pm

      This seems to be the MNA defense for rejecting yesterday’s offer, posted on MNA FB tonight –

      “Dear Mr Braumaugh,

      Any genuine offer from the hospital would have held up to the scrutiny of day light and not had a limit of 45 minutes for negotiators to consider. Any genuine offer would not have had the contingencies the hospital demanded. My negotiating team can certainly suggest I vote to ratify but they can hardly guarantee how the membership is going to vote. I am disappointed that my hospital leadership would demand these conditions and would insist that a decision with such enormous gravity be made in the middle of the night over a 45 minute period of time. In my opinion these tactics are unethical and disrespectful and am disappointed that they continue.

      I am a completely informed member of my bargaining unit that stands behind our decision to withhold our labor starting at 0700 on Tuesday morning. Furthermore I am completely confident that I will be joined by 100% of my colleagues.

      Cari ——, RN”

      • Posted by nancy nurse on June 30, 2010 at 11:42 pm

        Took me about 3 minutes to make a decision about the hospitals offer—I would have taken it and been thankful that my pension and longevity bonus were intact. I was at my job June 10th and will be there next week doing what needs to be done. Thanks for the opportunity to say so without feeling like I have to defend why.

      • Posted by lovrush on June 30, 2010 at 11:52 pm

        You are very wrong about the “100%” of your colleagues joining you in “withholding” labor. There will many, many nurses working in the hospitals – because we have lost confidence in the negotiating team. Time and time again, we have been told that the TCH are lying and then, when the truth is revealed, it turns out that THEY are the ones looking out for the nurses – not the MNA. In the end, we need the hospitals to be able to survive in order to care for patients and hold jobs for the RNs. MNA doesn’t care if hospitals end up closing due to their rigid, non-critically-thought-out staffing proposal – nurses I know want acuity considered when assignments are made – not rigid ratios that give no thought to the complexity of each individual patient – I have seen the light and WILL be working next week!


  30. Posted by proudtobeRN on June 30, 2010 at 9:51 pm

    I am so happy to have this blog, before I would go to the FB site and it was so depressing to think that everyone felt the way the people posting did; now I have found out that everyone was afraid to post a dissenting comment.
    I have been most disappointed after reading the NNU Policy for Contract negotiations; it is verbatim what the MNA is proposing. Their agenda has not worked out well in California and now they are trying here
    There are several RN’s on my unit that are crossing and more that are on the fence but are worried about the repercussions from other staff.I know that many of them will not send the actual paperwork to MNA until the last minute, why risk the harassment. I think MNA’s flat out rejection of the hospital proposal last night was a pretty blatant statement of their actual agenda; are they really negotiating for their members? I don’t think so.
    I applaud all of you here for really caring enough to get to the truth instead of blindly following. Pat yourself on the back and stand strong.

    • Posted by lovrush on June 30, 2010 at 10:09 pm

      You pretty much see the same posters on the MNA FB site – some of which are full-time union organizers from California and other locals. An attempt to drum up support and distort the truth.

      • Posted by drichmn on June 30, 2010 at 10:32 pm

        the one article that is posted in the MNA Member Advisory topic talks about “parachuting” nurses in from other states to assist in union organizing.

    • proudtobeRN, thank you and we welcome your comments and hope you find the information helpful in the days ahead!

    • Posted by drichmn on June 30, 2010 at 10:23 pm

      do you have a link to the NNU policy on contract negotiations by any chance?

  31. Posted by Linda on June 30, 2010 at 10:10 pm

    This is a powerful and positive movement towards GOOD for ALL. I posted for weeks on MNABLOG site and was attacked with name calling, accusations and disrespect. I continued posting because periodically a nurse would reply to my post supporting my requests to stop the abuse and agree with comments I made in support of leadership at ANW and truly the great working environment we have there. Just a couple comments kept me going. I kept thinking if only a couple nurses can stand up against what MNA is doing and saying the movement will take off. I prayed that this day would happen and this is bigger than I ever imagined. I posted at MNAblog that darkness cannot exist in the light and the light is getting brighter. Good will always win over Evil. MNA behaviors and words have been cruel, disrespectful and not truthful to its’ members. I am so glad you are no longer being victims of that abuse.The news is shifting. The public is now backing nurses daring to stand up for their profession and for their patients by coming in to work to care for them. Nurses are taking back their profession. Now I am imagining hundreds of nurses coming in to work – crossing the picket line of only a scattered few caring signs. The public will regain trust and even to a greater level because they are now seeing that nurses really do care for them and are willing to cross the line to give that care. Bless you all and may you feel peace and be safe in the days ahead.

    • Linda…this light is definitely bigger than I ever imagined 12 days ago. The movement has taken off….and upset a few others but we must stand up for what we believe! Thank you for your support and kind words! Blessings to you also.

  32. Posted by fatbiggs on June 30, 2010 at 10:51 pm

    After working at an Allina Hospital for 7 years as a PCA/Phlebotomist I was unable to be hired on as an RN upon passing the boards. I graduated at time when the lay offs began. When I look at these contracts I cannot help but think that after a year of working at the TUC I am presently employed at, I would go back to my TCH for a fraction of those benefits.

    Good luck to all you RNs who value your job and your patients. It is good to see you all ‘nursing’ eachother’s spirits in this difficult time.

  33. Posted by mpps on June 30, 2010 at 11:07 pm

    How can we share this info with our nurses at Methodist? I think everyone should see this! It makes me sick to my stomach to see what was turned down.

    • Some have put up the blog address in break rooms….and word of mouth!

    • Posted by drichmn on June 30, 2010 at 11:51 pm

      others here have made sure that the blog site is posted on their unit then they can come here and see for themselves. You might want to check with your manager to see if that’s okay to use one of the bulletin boards. Others have said that their manager has made sure that it stayed up on the bulletin board.

      • Posted by Not A Union Fan RN on July 1, 2010 at 12:03 am

        BRAVO! Good for everyone that has posted this site address in their unit and to the managers that have made sure the information stayed posted up……if the union can have their billboards full of propaganda….then why cant those with differing opinions also have a billboard up? YOU GUYS ROCK!

  34. Posted by listenup123 on July 1, 2010 at 12:06 am

    Hang in there everyone. This site has restored my faith in nursing. anurse and drichmn, you will never know how many people’s lives you have touched through your hard work on this blog! If you have ever read the book, “The Tipping Point”, I can assure you that this blog has helped make that happen. This site has provided facts, evidence, and a professional place where discussion can take place in a manner that honors nursing. Bravo!!! To all those who are wearing the “Florence would be ashamed” buttons, I think quite the opposite: Florence would be very proud of those who are standing up for the patients, and staying to take care of them.

    “So never lose an opportunity of urging a practical beginning, however small, for it is wonderful how often in such matters the mustard-seed germinates and roots itself. ”
    Florence Nightingale

    • Thank you listenup123, I think Florence Nightingale would be dissappointed by how our profession is acting. I don’t think Florence ever went on strike did she?

      • Posted by MNChildrensNurse on July 1, 2010 at 12:49 am

        Amen to that!!!! I cringe every time I see a nurse in my unit wearing the “I’ll strike” button. I’m sure that is what every parent wants to see when they are holding their sick child!!! I honestly just want to get this week over with, and then get on with my job in peace for a while without all the tension and anger.

    • Posted by drichmn on July 1, 2010 at 12:13 am

      thank you. That means a lot.

  35. Posted by janet on July 1, 2010 at 12:31 am

    mna does this stand for Minnesota narcisist association. What about all of the people this strike hurts. Patients coworkers doctors the hospitals and on.and on. I will never understand what or why mna is doing this. Those of us who work on tues be proud because we truly care.

  36. Posted by si, de veras on July 1, 2010 at 2:19 am

    i think what upset me the most was the dismissive attitude i was given at the Q&A MNA meeting when i asked if anyone had ever stopped to think about how Regions was able to give their RNs a 3% payraise. it was completely blown off, and it makes it clear to me that there is a serious lack of critical thinking skills on the negotiating team. why is it that Regions is able to offer a 3% payraise? maybe because they no longer have baylor, they no longer have separate vacation/sick time-and instead have PTO, maybe because their holiday pay is now only christmas and new year’s (to get holiday pay on the other holidays, the RNs have to use their PTO), because there is no float pool and so people float to other units that are short, because there is no resource nurse or code team or flyers, because there is lower tuition reimbursement and so on and so forth. perhaps these are the reasons Regions is able to give back to their RNs because of these cuts they’ve had to make to stay financially viable.

    it was almost cult-like looking around and listening to everyone get fired up by the speaker. i was thinking, ‘has everyone stopped thinking for themselves?’ i am distrustful of both sides, but working at a non-contract facility and a contract facility, i see where this is headed. i wonder if people have asked themselves, ‘do you spend every single penny in your bank account, or do you keep some for a rainy day?’ and then extrapolate that to the hospitals that have to keep extra money for a rainy day. they can’t spend every single penny they have either.

    i was initially a staunch supporter, but i have been so disgusted by the recent tactics, i am so close to just turning in my MNA resignation and crossing the line to continue caring for the patients.

    • Posted by drichmn on July 1, 2010 at 7:29 am

      thanks for commenting. Your points about Regions are really spot on. They aren’t thinking critically about any of this anymore. It’s pure emotion and that’s what you saw being whipped up at the meeting by the speaker. And it is frightening to watch.

      Everybody has to make up their own mind about what they will do based on their personal and family considerations. If you do decide to cross just know that we are here to support your decision and from the comments that other hospital staff are making here you will have a great deal of support within your hospital by others. There is good information in the FAQ’s and Resigning from MNA tabs at the top of the page. If you have any questions at all feel free to ask and we all will do our best to answer them.

      Good luck.

    • Posted by conflictedRN on July 1, 2010 at 2:41 pm


  37. Posted by AllinaCNA on July 1, 2010 at 4:43 am

    Kudos to anurse for starting this blog! I hope that all of you wonderful RNs do not mind a comment or two from a CNA.

    I am delighted to find this blog and to read the respectful, thoughtful and most importantly researched comments made here. I too find the MNA facebook page deplorable, with it’s childish and inappropriate comments made about many of the principals in this mess called negotiations.

    I have worked at an Allina hospital for over nine years. Though there are days that can be challenging staffing wise, I feel like many of you, that our staffing ratios are excellent. After working NOCs for eight of those years, the thought of staffing at the same ratio for all three shifts is just plain laughable.

    I have so many wonderful RN friends, many who share the views here, and also many who seem to have been “indoctrinated” into the MNA mentality. From the very beginning of the strike talk I have been filled with fear for these friends. So many have the idea that the TCH could not possibly replace so many nurses and that they will cave if an open ended strike occurs. I lived through the Hormel strike in Austin in the late eighties. Their union had similar “hard nosed attitudes” about negotiations, and at the end of a very long and painful strike, none of those union employees had a job. The town was literally ripped apart between those who crossed and those who didn’t, with hard feelings and lost friendships remaining to this day.

    This is just such a sad situation, one that I firmly believe did not need to come to this point. I absolutely love my job and the people that I work with and I don’t think it will ever be the same if this strike goes forward.

    I want to commend those of you who are standing up for your beliefs and your patients by crossing the line and going to work. May we all support each other, our employers and our patients during this difficult and stressful time!

    • Posted by drichmn on July 1, 2010 at 7:49 am

      Thank you for your considerate comments. The parallel to the Hormel strike is apt although it’s extremely sad to even contemplate it. MNA is following the tactics of NNU who in turn is, I believe, being directed by AFL-CIO.

      ACL-CIO knows nothing at all about nurses, patient care, or our profession. Their tactics are the same used when shutting down manufacturing plants. But hospitals are not factories and patients are not parts on an assembly line. Lives are at stake in a hospital if you walk out, no one ever died from stopping a car from being made. They are harming our profession and the reputation of nurses across the country by these tactics.

      Those of us who don’t agree with these tactic must, we simply must, not let this happen. Our patients and our profession require all of our advocacy skills and a little bit of political savvy in order to stop this march against the reputations of nurses and our profession.

      I do hope others around the country who have been considering severing ties with ANA are taking a lesson from what is happening here and has happened in other states in which they’ve gotten a toe-hold. Those who have recently severed ties should learn from this as well. Perhaps they need to return to the professional organization that has been a true advocate for the nursing profession for decades and has bargained for nurses in good faith.

      It’s clear to me that the nurses installed as officers in the new union are simply figure-heads and the show is being run by others behind the scenes. I’m not against unions but this new one is harming our good and trusted name in the community. And that is not acceptable in my book.


  39. Posted by MNChildrensNurse on July 1, 2010 at 8:33 am

    Ok guys–I want to renew an old idea we had recently here, but also to expand on it. Now that we are increasing in numbers–lets all go in to work on Tuesday wearing green shirts!! Lets stand strong and do our green for go theme!!! And replacement rns who see this–please join us with the green shirts–we welcome you!!!! Are you guys all up for that? Even if the MNA has ancillary staff who will see this and wear green tops–it doesn’t matter–we will at least know that us rn’s are all there in support of each other and out patients. So what do you guys think? huh? can we do it? pleeeeeeeeeeease???? pretty please??????

  40. Posted by si, de veras on July 1, 2010 at 9:37 am

    Thanks for the info. I’ve done my homework about how to resign. Thank you for having this blog. I know of several RNs that are planning to cross. I will lose friends over this, but I guess they weren’t strong friendships to begin with if that’s the case.

    I am utterly floored by the facebook remarks posted by Linda Slattengren, MNA President:

    “Have to recognize that every pressure and all negative comments are “TACTICS” by the employer.They always go to the MDs and use them and other workers to apply the pressure! We would hope that our Professional Colleagues would not resort to company propaganda as it is for their patients that we are Yelling for safe …care! If they joined us we could restructure the bullying mindset of the CEOs and have real healthcare systems that refocus on their patients and not market share!
    Amazing when one thinks the devastation to work teams and relationships is okay with the CEOs with the hope of busting our union and unity! They don’t want nurses they want drones!”

    In my opinion, especially after the MNA meeting, it is the MNA that wants drones to follow them blindly down this path.

    I will be crossing.

    • Posted by drichmn on July 1, 2010 at 9:55 am

      We are aware that MNA has been floating the conspiracy theory that “anurse” and I are hospital management and that this blog is being run by the hospitals. Some FB post said a blog like this costs $150K to run. Now, that may be what MNA pays for their website and FB page to be run by professionals but I guess they are clueless that is free. And “anurse” and I have already been verified to be RN’s by the Star Tribune reporter who respected our wish to be anonymous. We are doing so because we do not want to bring notoriety to ourselves. We are doing this because we want to make sure that all nurses have a safe place to come to express their views and get information and support to help them make an informed decisiion. And from the response from all of you, “anurse” was right that there was a need. We just didn’t realize how big of a need it was.

      • Posted by Anonymous on July 1, 2010 at 11:19 am

        you can run a website and blog for very little. Even if hosting domain just have the feel for the service which runs short of $200 for 2 years or so. There are joomla and other templates. It does not cost anyone 150k per year to have a web presence. If that were the case most small businesses could not afford to do so.

  41. Posted by drichmn on July 1, 2010 at 10:21 am

    Please check the “Announcements”, the National Right to Work Foundation is offering free legal assistance to Minneapolis nurses.

  42. As an ANW employee (but not an RN), I want to personally thank all of you for coming through this with the grace, dignity and compassion that I have known our nurses to have. It is with great pride that I say I work at ANW and you have all my respect, along with alot of other fellow employees for standing up for what you believe in. I am praying for you that this is resolved soon and that we can do what we do best–take care of our patients.

  43. Posted by LoveMyJob on July 1, 2010 at 2:35 pm

    I saw a rumor somewhere on this site (can’t find it now) that said she heard that TCH and MNA were back in talks this afternoon. Be careful about that and wait to get it verified. It may be the MNA’s attempt to have you rethink resigning. I’m not seeing anything further and at lunch saw a member of our negotiating team and I think she might have said something.

  44. Posted by RN Supporter on July 1, 2010 at 3:08 pm

    MNA FB just posted an announcement that a settlement agreement has been reached.

  45. Posted by relocatedrn on July 1, 2010 at 3:15 pm

    Statement posted on MNA Facebook by the MNA staff

    The registered nurses and the hospitals believe a settlement of the labor agreement at this time is in the best interests of patients and our community.

    The Minnesota Nurses Association and the fourteen hospitals that have been engaged in negotiations since March have reached agreement with the assistance of the Federal Mediation and … See MoreConciliation Service on the terms for new collective bargaining agreements. The contract settlement is subject to ratification by the registered nurses represented by the Union, but the Union’s negotiating committees covering all fourteen hospitals have agreed to favorably recommend the settlement for ratification.

    The Minnesota Nurses Association and the hospitals have agreed to a renewed commitment to working through both parties’ staffing issues through the existing committee systems at the various hospitals.

    The affected hospitals are Abbott Northwestern Hospital, Bethesda Hospital, Children’s Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota, Fairview Southdale Hospital, Mercy Hospital, North Memorial Medical Center, Park Nicollet Methodist Hospital, Phillips Eye Institute, St. John’s Hospital, St. Joseph’s Hospital, United Hospital, Unity Hospital, and the Riverside Campus of the University of Minnesota Medical Center, Fairview. This also includes a recommended ratification for the Pension Contract at St. Francis Regional Medical Center in Shakopee.

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